From: Sam Vilain <sam@vilain.net>
To: vatsa@in.ibm.com
Cc: Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
sekharan@us.ibm.com, Balbir Singh <balbir@in.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] CPU controllers?
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:52:16 +1200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4491D690.707@vilain.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060615134632.GA22033@in.ibm.com>
Srivatsa Vaddagiri wrote:
> One possibility is to add a basic controller, that addresses some minimal
> requirements, to begin with and progressively enhance it capabilities. From this
> pov, both the f-series resource group controller and cpu rate-cap seem to be
> good candidates for a minimal controller to begin with.
>
> Thoughts?
>
Sounds like you're on the right track, but I don't know whether we can
truly be happy making the performance/guarantee trade-off decision for
the user.
You could grossly put the solutions into several camps;
1. solutions which have very low impact and provide soft assurances only
2. solutions which provide hard limits
3. solutions which provide guarantees
I think it's almost invariant that the latter solutions have more of a
performance impact, and that it's quite important that normal system
throughput does not suffer from the "scheduling namespace" solution that
we come up with.
> Salient features of various CPU controllers that have been proposed so far are
> summarized below. I have not captured OpenVZ and Vserver controller aspects
> well. Request the maintainers to fill-in!
> [...]
> 2. Timeslice scaling (Maeda Naoaki and Kurosawa Takahiro)
>
> Features:
> * Provide guaranteed CPU execution rate on a per-task-group basis
> Guarantee provided over an interval of 5 seconds.
> * Hooked to Resource Group infrastructure currently and hence
> guarantee/limit set thr' Resource Group's RCFS interface.
> * Achieves guaranteed execution by scaling down timeslice of tasks
> who are above their guaranteed execution rate. Timeslice can be
> scaled down only to a minimum of 1 slice.
> * Does not scale down timeslice of interactive tasks (even if their
> CPU usage is beyond what is guaranteed) and does not avoid requeue
> of interactive tasks.
> * Patch is quite simple
>
> Limitations:
> * Does not support limiting task-group CPU execution rate
>
> Drawbacks:
> (Some of the drawbacks listed are probably being addressed currently
> with a redesign - which we are yet to see)
>
> * Interactive tasks (and their requeuing) can come in the way of
> providing guaranteed execution rate to other tasks
> * SMP load balancing does not take into account guarantee provided to
> task groups.
> * It may not be possible to restrict CPU usage of a task group to only
> its guaranteed usage if the task-group has large number of tasks
> (each task is run for a minimum of 1 timeslice)
> * May not handle bursty loads
>
> [...]
> 4. VServer CPU controller
>
> Features:
> - Token-bucket based
>
The VServer scheduler is also timeslice scaling - it just uses the token
bucket to know how much to scale the timeslices. It doesn't care about
interactive bonuses, although it does lessen the interactivity bonus a
notch or two (to -5..+5).
This means that it's performance neutral in the general case.
> Drawbacks:
> - ?
>
It fits into category 1 (or, using Herbert Poetzl's enhancements, 2), so
does not provide guarantees.
> Limitations:
> - ?
Doesn't deal with huge numbers of processes; but with task group ulimits
that problem goes away in practice.
Sam.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-06-15 21:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-06-15 13:46 [RFC] CPU controllers? Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-06-15 21:52 ` Sam Vilain [this message]
2006-06-15 23:30 ` Peter Williams
2006-06-16 0:42 ` Matt Helsley
2006-06-17 8:48 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-17 15:55 ` Balbir Singh
2006-06-17 16:48 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-06-18 5:06 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-18 5:53 ` Sam Vilain
2006-06-18 6:11 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-18 6:40 ` Sam Vilain
2006-06-18 7:17 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-18 6:42 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-18 7:28 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-19 19:03 ` Resource Management Requirements (was "[RFC] CPU controllers?") Chandra Seetharaman
2006-06-20 5:40 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-06-18 7:36 ` [RFC] CPU controllers? Mike Galbraith
2006-06-18 7:49 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-18 7:49 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-18 9:09 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-18 9:49 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-06-19 6:28 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-06-19 6:35 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-19 6:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-06-19 18:21 ` Chris Friesen
2006-06-20 6:20 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-06-18 7:18 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-06-19 2:07 ` Sam Vilain
2006-06-19 7:04 ` MAEDA Naoaki
2006-06-19 8:19 ` Sam Vilain
2006-06-19 8:41 ` MAEDA Naoaki
2006-06-19 8:53 ` Sam Vilain
2006-06-19 21:44 ` MAEDA Naoaki
2006-06-19 18:14 ` Chris Friesen
2006-06-19 19:11 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-06-19 20:28 ` Chris Friesen
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