From: MAEDA Naoaki <maeda.naoaki@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Sam Vilain <sam@vilain.net>
Cc: vatsa@in.ibm.com, Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
sekharan@us.ibm.com, Balbir Singh <balbir@in.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kurosawa@valinux.co.jp,
ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net,
MAEDA Naoaki <maeda.naoaki@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] CPU controllers?
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 17:41:04 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44966320.6080308@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44965E0C.9050508@vilain.net>
Sam Vilain wrote:
> MAEDA Naoaki wrote:
>>> ok, so basically the bit in cpu_rc_load() where for_each_cpu_mask() is
>>> called, in Maeda Naoaki's patch "CPU controller - Add class load
>>> estimation support", is where O(N) creeps in that could be remedied with
>>> a token bucket algorithm. You don't want this because if you have 10,000
>>> processes on a system in two resource groups, the aggregate performance
>>> will suffer due to the large number of cacheline misses during the 5,000
>>> size loop that runs every resched.
>>>
>> Thank you for looking the code.
>>
>> cpu_rc_load() is never called unless sysadm tries to access the load
>> information via configfs from userland. In addition, it sums up per-CPU
>> group stats, so the size of loop is the number of CPU, not process in
>> the group.
>>
>> However, there is a similer loop in cpu_rc_recalc_tsfactor(), which runs
>> every CPU_RC_RECALC_INTERVAL that is defined as HZ. I don't think it
>> will cause a big performance penalty.
>>
>
> Ok, so that's not as bad as it looked. So, while it is still O(N), the
> fact that it is O(N/HZ) makes this not a problem until you get to
> possibly impractical levels of runqueue length.
Do you mean N is the size of the loop? for_each_cpu_mask() loops
the number of CPUs times. It is not directly related to runqueue length.
> I'm thinking it's probably worth doing anyway, just so that it can be
> performance tested to see if this performance guestimate is accurate.
>
>>> To apply the token bucket here, you would first change the per-CPU
>>> struct cpu_rc to have the TBF fields; minimally:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>> I think that the characteristics of these two approaches are subtly
>>> different. Both scale timeslices, but in a different way - instead of
>>> estimating the load and scaling back timeslices up front, busy Resource
>>> Groups are relied on to deplete their tokens in a timely manner, and get
>>> shorter slices allocated because of that. No doubt from 10,000 feet they
>>> both look the same.
>>>
>> Current 0(1) scheduler gives extra bonus for interactive tasks by
>> requeuing them to active array for a while. It would break
>> the controller's efforts. So, I'm planning to stop the interactive
>> task requeuing if the target share doesn't meet.
>>
>> Are there a similar issue on the vserver scheduler?
>>
>
> Not an issue - those extra requeued timeslices are accounted for normally.
It's great.
Thanks,
MAEDA Naoaki
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-06-19 8:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-06-15 13:46 [RFC] CPU controllers? Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-06-15 21:52 ` Sam Vilain
2006-06-15 23:30 ` Peter Williams
2006-06-16 0:42 ` Matt Helsley
2006-06-17 8:48 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-17 15:55 ` Balbir Singh
2006-06-17 16:48 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-06-18 5:06 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-18 5:53 ` Sam Vilain
2006-06-18 6:11 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-18 6:40 ` Sam Vilain
2006-06-18 7:17 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-18 6:42 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-18 7:28 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-19 19:03 ` Resource Management Requirements (was "[RFC] CPU controllers?") Chandra Seetharaman
2006-06-20 5:40 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-06-18 7:36 ` [RFC] CPU controllers? Mike Galbraith
2006-06-18 7:49 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-18 7:49 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-18 9:09 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-18 9:49 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-06-19 6:28 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-06-19 6:35 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-19 6:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-06-19 18:21 ` Chris Friesen
2006-06-20 6:20 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-06-18 7:18 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-06-19 2:07 ` Sam Vilain
2006-06-19 7:04 ` MAEDA Naoaki
2006-06-19 8:19 ` Sam Vilain
2006-06-19 8:41 ` MAEDA Naoaki [this message]
2006-06-19 8:53 ` Sam Vilain
2006-06-19 21:44 ` MAEDA Naoaki
2006-06-19 18:14 ` Chris Friesen
2006-06-19 19:11 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-06-19 20:28 ` Chris Friesen
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