From: John Richard Moser <nigelenki@comcast.net>
To: Andreas Mohr <andi@rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/SERIOUS] grilling troubled CPUs for fun and profit?
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:39:42 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4496FD7E.3090804@comcast.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060619191543.GA17187@rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de>
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Andreas Mohr wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> while looking for loop places to apply cpu_relax() to, I found the
> following gems:
>
> arch/i386/kernel/crash.c/crash_nmi_callback():
>
> /* Assume hlt works */
> halt();
> for(;;);
>
> return 1;
> }
>
> arch/i386/kernel/doublefault.c/doublefault_fn():
>
> for (;;) /* nothing */;
> }
>
> Let's assume that we have a less than moderate fan failure that causes
> the CPU to heat up beyond the critical limit...
> That might result in - you guessed it - crashes or doublefaults.
> In which case we enter the corresponding handler and do... what?
Looks like it calls halt() to put the CPU into idle mode, and then
performs a nop? (I think the null condition evaluates false.... not
sure, haven't tried this before!)
> Exactly, we accelerate the CPUs happy march into bit heaven by letting it
> execute a busy-loop under a non-working fan.
> Thanks, your users will be very happy, I think ;)
> (especially since it was "just" a simple fan failure that could have been
> entirely remedied by buying another fan for $3)
>
>
> The same thing applies to
> arch/i386/kernel/smp.c/stop_this_cpu(), albeit there it's less catastrophic
> due to most likely normal working conditions there.
>
> IMHO on any critical CPU failure we should:
> - try to log it (might be difficult with a broken CPU, though)
> - optionally somehow directly alert the user
> - STOP the system, COMPLETELY (that way people WILL take notice, hopefully
> before it's too late and actual damage will have occurred)
> - make DAMN SURE that the (possibly already broken) CPU won't have a
> less than nice time once the system is stopped
>
> Am I completely missing something here?
>
> If this is an issue, then maybe we should consolidate those places into
> one function that safely(!) halts a CPU, optionally disabling APIC etc.
>
> Oh, and once you finished processing my mail here, you could optionally
> also look at my report about almost unusably broken USB:
> http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/6/19/54
> (no replies yet despite advanced breakage)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Andreas Mohr
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-06-19 19:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-06-19 19:15 [RFC/SERIOUS] grilling troubled CPUs for fun and profit? Andreas Mohr
2006-06-19 19:39 ` John Richard Moser [this message]
2006-06-19 20:00 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-06-19 20:23 ` Dave Jones
2006-06-19 20:47 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-06-19 20:59 ` Dave Jones
2006-06-19 22:25 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-19 22:41 ` Dave Jones
2006-06-20 11:39 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-06-21 17:16 ` Ian Romanick
2006-06-21 17:57 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2006-06-22 17:47 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-20 9:58 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-06-22 18:16 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-23 17:32 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-06-24 19:54 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-25 11:01 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-06-20 9:54 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-06-19 21:16 ` Claudio Martins
2006-06-19 22:16 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-19 22:43 ` Dave Jones
2006-06-20 7:29 ` Andreas Mohr
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[not found] ` <6pyer-2Pt-1@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-06-19 21:40 ` Bodo Eggert
2006-06-19 21:44 ` Dave Jones
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[not found] ` <fa.so5wrYE6MzA2swzlOE1Xjw9iqvk@ifi.uio.no>
2006-06-19 23:32 ` Robert Hancock
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