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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: discuss@x86-64.org, Dave Olson <olson@unixfolk.com>,
	Brice Goglin <brice@myri.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Lindahl <greg.lindahl@qlogic.com>,
	gregkh@suse.de
Subject: Re: [discuss] Re: [RFC] Whitelist chipsets supporting MSI and check Hyper-transport capabilities
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 04:27:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4497B16E.6020103@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200606201013.51564.ak@suse.de>

Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 June 2006 10:02, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> Andi Kleen wrote:
>>> So if there are any more MSI problems comming up IMHO it should be white list/disabled 
>>> by default and only turn on after a long time when Windows uses it by default 
>>> or something. Greg, do you agree?
>>
>> We should be optimists, not pessimists.
> 
> Yes, booting on all systems is overrated anyways, isn't it?

Don't be silly.  Whatever solution is arrived at will boot on all 
systems.  That's an obvious operational requirement.

This is how new technology always works in Linux.  We turn it on and see 
what works, and what doesn't.  And whether existing problems will 
disappear.  With MSI, I think we see them disappearing.

Newer systems seem to be doing better with MSI, in part because 
PCI-Express and other technologies trend towards MSI-style operation.

And the kernel's MSI code is finally getting cleaned up, and getting the 
attention it needs.


>> MSI is useful enough that we should turn it on by default in newer systems.
> 
> That is what we've tried so far and it seems to not work.

IMO that's an exaggeration.  On 50% of the x86-64 platforms (Intel), MSI 
has been working for quite some time.  On newer systems in the other 
half of the platforms, MSI seems be more usable than it has been in the 
past.

	Jeff



  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-20  8:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <fa.5FgZbVFZIyOdjQ3utdNvbqTrUq0@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.URgTUhhO9H/aLp98XyIN2gzSppk@ifi.uio.no>
2006-06-20  5:42   ` [discuss] Re: [RFC] Whitelist chipsets supporting MSI and check Hyper-transport capabilities Dave Olson
2006-06-20  7:25     ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-20  8:02       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-20  8:13         ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-20  8:27           ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2006-06-20 22:44             ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-06-20 20:03       ` Greg Lindahl
2006-06-20 20:20         ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-06-20 20:26           ` Brice Goglin
2006-06-20 20:41           ` Greg Lindahl
2006-06-20 20:50             ` Brice Goglin
2006-06-20 20:53               ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-20 20:57               ` Dave Olson
2006-06-20 20:23         ` Roland Dreier
2006-06-20 20:54           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-20 21:29       ` Greg KH
2006-06-20 22:27         ` Brice Goglin
2006-06-20 23:05           ` Greg KH
2006-06-20 23:16             ` Brice Goglin
2006-06-20 22:33         ` [discuss] Re: [RFC] Whitelist chipsets supporting MSI and check Hyper-transport capabilitiesKJ Andi Kleen
2006-06-20 22:46           ` Roland Dreier
2006-06-21  6:19             ` Dave Olson
2006-06-17  3:01 [RFC] Whitelist chipsets supporting MSI and check Hyper-transport capabilities Brice Goglin
2006-06-17 14:48 ` Brice Goglin
     [not found]   ` <20060619005329.GA1425@greglaptop>
2006-06-19  8:28     ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2006-06-19 12:52       ` Brice Goglin
2006-06-19 15:47       ` Greg Lindahl

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