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* Re: [Bugme-new] [Bug 6745] New: kernel hangs when trying to read atip wiith cdrecord
@ 2006-06-25 19:40 Joerg Schilling
  2006-06-26  0:01 ` Christian Lohmaier
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Joerg Schilling @ 2006-06-25 19:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

>Since I have a relatively old glibc I cannot use the newer versions of 
>cdrecord-prodvd, but cdrecord-prodvd-2.01b31-i686-pc-linux-gnu sometimes 
>works. I did work sometimes, but even when it wors and prints the atip - 
>compared to using my dvd-recorder it takes ages to print the results. 

Why don't you just compile a recent version by your own?

Jörg

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 URL:  http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

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* Re: [Bugme-new] [Bug 6745] New: kernel hangs when trying to read   atip wiith cdrecord
@ 2006-06-28  7:29 Joerg Schilling
  2006-06-28 11:19 ` Christian Lohmaier
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Joerg Schilling @ 2006-06-28  7:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>I updated the bug-report with some info I collected from another bug. 

>Apparently my drive sends additional interrupts that confuses the kernel 
>and make it hang. 
>The problem is triggered with newer versions of cdrecord (cdrtools 
>2.01a33 and newer) where cdrecord changed its driver interface. 

cdrtools-2.01a33 is extremely old (2 years).

It did not introduce new SCSI commands (compared to prevuious versions) and I
would be interested why this problem is discussed late.

The only new thing with cdrecord-2.01a33 is that it started to transfer more 
than 4 bytes with the "read buffer" command. As this is only issued in case that
the "read buffer" command did succeed with 4 bytes transfer count and as 
cdrecord does not transfer more than the drive advertizes, I am just depending 
on a kernel that does not freeze from the SCSI command I am issuing.


Jörg

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 EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
       js@cs.tu-berlin.de                (uni)  
       schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de     (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
 URL:  http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

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* Re: [Bugme-new] [Bug 6745] New: kernel hangs when trying to read   atip wiith cdrecord
@ 2006-06-28  7:18 Joerg Schilling
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Joerg Schilling @ 2006-06-28  7:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

Christian Lohmaier wrote: 
>On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:30:19 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: 
>> Christian Lohmaier wrote: 
>>>> Why don't you just compile a recent version by your own? 

>>>                 How would I compile the closed-source cdrecord-prodvd 
>>>                 myself? 

>> ???? 

>> are you kidding? 

>No, but you are apparently talking about a totally different thing 
>again. 

>????

You are confusing people here and I am not shure about your intention.....


>> ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/aplha/ 

>I cannot find sources for the *proDVD* version there. Yes, I even 
>corrected the typo. 

Is this an attempt tp give wrong information by intention, or are you just
too lazy inform yourself?


>If you mean that the newer alphas are all "proDVD" versions because they 
>now contain dvd-support, you're just confusing people here. 

????

No, it's *you* who is confusing people.


>Even more so because *you already know* that I compiled the new alphas 
>myself. Trying them and having my cdburner not working anymore made me 
>start all this. 

>From your information, it does not look as if you did compile and use
recent versions of cdrecord.

It is obvious that you cannot expect software to work if it triggers
a OS bug.

>By asking such question, assuming "insider" knowledge and despite you 
>already knowing the answer, you're not helping people to focus on the 
>real problem, 

????

Again: you are definitely confusing people and I am not sure whether you 
do this by intention or by mistake.

Jörg

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 EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
       js@cs.tu-berlin.de                (uni)  
       schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de     (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
 URL:  http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

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* Re: [Bugme-new] [Bug 6745] New: kernel hangs when trying to read    atip wiith cdrecord
@ 2006-06-26 18:49 Christian Lohmaier
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Christian Lohmaier @ 2006-06-26 18:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:30:19 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>>> Why don't you just compile a recent version by your own? 
> 
>>                 How would I compile the closed-source cdrecord-prodvd
>>                 myself? 
> 
> ????
> 
> are you kidding?

No, but you are apparently talking about a totally different thing
again.

> ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/aplha/

I cannot find sources for the *proDVD* version there. Yes, I even
corrected the typo.

If you mean that the newer alphas are all "proDVD" versions because they
now contain dvd-support, you're just confusing people here.

Even more so because *you already know* that I compiled the new alphas
myself. Trying them and having my cdburner not working anymore made me
start all this.

By asking such question, assuming "insider" knowledge and despite you
already knowing the answer, you're not helping people to focus on the
real problem,

ciao
Christian
-- 
NP: Metallica - Loverman

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* Re: [Bugme-new] [Bug 6745] New: kernel hangs when trying to read   atip wiith cdrecord
@ 2006-06-26 18:21 Joerg Schilling
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Joerg Schilling @ 2006-06-26 18:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

Christian Lohmaier wrote:
>> Why don't you just compile a recent version by your own? 

>                 How would I compile the closed-source cdrecord-prodvd myself? 


????

are you kidding?

ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/aplha/

Jörg

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 EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
       js@cs.tu-berlin.de                (uni)  
       schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de     (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
 URL:  http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

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* Re: [Bugme-new] [Bug 6745] New: kernel hangs when trying to read   atip wiith cdrecord
@ 2006-06-25 10:53 Joerg Schilling
  2006-06-25 11:06 ` Andrew Morton
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Joerg Schilling @ 2006-06-25 10:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel, akpm


You did write:

>> Executing 'read buffer' command on Bus 1 Target 0, Lun 0 timeout 40s
>> CDB:  3C 00 00 00 00 00 00 FC 00 00
>> 
>> So the kernel doesn't timeout/return for some reason.
>> You can find the full log here:
>> http://muenchen-surf.de/lohmaier/cdrecord_atip_log
>> 
>> If that information is not enough to handle the process, please tell me what
>> else you need. Thank you.
>> 

>We seem to have an awful lot of these "CD burner doesn't work but it did in
>2.4" reports.

>Does anyone have the vaguest inklink of how we broke it?

There are various reasons....

One important problem of course is the fact that various distributors (e.g. 
RedHat, Suse, Debian, Ubuntu) are ungrading cdrecord slower than the Linux 
kernel changes it's interfaces. Related  to is problem: the Linux Kernel folks
do not inform me before breaking Linux kernel interfaces, so I am informed too 
late in order to add a workaround to cdrecord in time.

The most recent interface changes have been:

-	Instead of fixing the bug that allowed anyone to send arbitrary SCSI 
	commands to CD/DVD-recorders (caused by not requiring write permission
	on the node), the behavior of SCSI generic was changed (in 2.6.8.1).

	Old behavior: open device as root and send commands as user.
	New behavior: open device as user and send commands as root.

-	Some time between January 2006 and 2004, a new rlimit "RLIMIT_NOFILE"
	was added and implemented in a way that is not compatible to previous
	kernel behavior.

	Old behavior: mlockall(MCL_CURRENT|MCL_FUTURE) done as root was honored
			for the same process if later continued as user.
	New behavior: mlockall(MCL_CURRENT|MCL_FUTURE) done as root is no longer
			honored for the same process if later continued as user.


Another problem is caused by the fact that various distributors (e.g. RedHat, 
Suse, Debian, Ubuntu) are applying patches to cdrecord that break cdrecord.


The problem mentioned in this thread seems to be caused by the fact that
Linux sometimes ignores timeouts. I have no idea how to help in this (timeout) 
case.



Jörg

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 EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin
       js@cs.tu-berlin.de                (uni)  
       schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de     (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/
 URL:  http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily

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