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From: Steve Lord <lord@xfs.org>
To: Badari Pulavarty <pbadari@us.ibm.com>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Proposal and plan for ext2/3 future development work
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:17:00 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44A578AC.3010709@xfs.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060630182457.GH11640@ca-server1.us.oracle.com>

Joel Becker wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 10:13:06AM -0700, Badari Pulavarty wrote:
>> I tried adding "delayed allocation" for ext3 earlier. Yes. VFS level
>> infrastructure would be nice. But, I haven't found much that we can
>> do at VFS - which is common across all the filesystems (except
>> mpage_writepage(s) handling). Most of the stuff is specific to 
>> filesystem implementation (even though it could be common) - coming
>> out with VFS level interfaces to suite all the different filesystem
>> delalloc would be *interesting* exercise.
> 
> 	Well, to be fair, I'm just going by what little I know about
> XFS.  They maintain a cache of all pages waiting on delayed allocation
> for writepack.  Why have this entire cache (hash, list, whatever) when
> we could create some state on in the pagecache?  We save a large chunk
> of memory and some complex writeback code.  I suspect you were thinking
> of this when you said "mpage_writepage(s) handling".  But this is a
> large complexity win if we can do it.


No, XFS does not do this, when it gets asked to write out a page which is
delayed alloc, it goes and converts the delayed alloc extent to real disk
space. It then uses the page cache/buffer heads to find all the contiguous
pages which it can turn into a singe disk I/O. The code is made more complex
by other possible states for the data. The only information internal to XFS
though is its extent structures.

Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-30 19:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-28 23:55 Proposal and plan for ext2/3 future development work Theodore Ts'o
2006-06-30  1:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-30  1:59   ` Joel Becker
2006-06-30 17:13     ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-06-30 18:24       ` Joel Becker
2006-06-30 19:17         ` Steve Lord [this message]
2006-06-30 19:29         ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-06-30 10:39 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-30 15:14   ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-01  9:42     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-01 10:29       ` Theodore Tso
2006-06-30 11:09 ` Patrick McFarland
2006-06-30 23:44   ` Mingming Cao
2006-07-24 13:04 ` Guillaume Chazarain
2006-07-24 18:11   ` Jeff Garzik

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