From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Jeff Bailey <jbailey@ubuntu.com>
Cc: Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>,
Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>,
torvalds@osdl.org, klibc@zytor.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: [klibc] klibc and what's the next step?
Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 08:22:28 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44A69334.3010309@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1151751417.2553.8.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Jeff Bailey wrote:
>> Either the kernel can unconditionally invoke /kinit, which then would
>> invoke the users /init if present, or the swsusp can be a separate
>> initramfs binary which the user's initramfs gets to invoke (the second
>> is arguably neater, but requires minor changes to the users initramfs.)
>
> The Ubuntu initramfs doesn't use kinit, and it would be nice if we
> weren't forced to. We do a number of things in our initramfs (like a
> userspace bootsplace) which we need done before most of the things kinit
> wants to do take place.
>
> kinit is a nice default tool but longer term, I almost imagine it as a
> busybox type of setup. Either you say "go" and it brings up the system,
> or you call it with an argument, change argv[0] or something to get just
> the functionality asked for.
Modularity is good; in general I think the busybox model of one
overgrown binary is probably not the right idea, but it depends of
course on the specifics of the problem.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-01 15:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-06-26 0:57 [klibc 00/43] klibc as a historyless patchset H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-27 13:12 ` klibc and what's the next step? Roman Zippel
2006-06-27 13:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-27 16:42 ` [klibc] " Greg KH
2006-06-28 23:46 ` Roman Zippel
2006-06-27 17:01 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-27 17:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-27 17:40 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-27 17:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-27 20:22 ` Joshua Hudson
2006-06-28 5:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-29 0:04 ` Roman Zippel
2006-07-03 18:30 ` Rob Landley
2006-07-03 18:46 ` [klibc] " maximilian attems
2006-07-04 1:36 ` Jeff Bailey
2006-07-04 2:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-27 14:07 ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-27 14:40 ` Jeff Bailey
2006-06-27 19:47 ` Milton Miller
2006-06-28 23:56 ` Roman Zippel
2006-06-29 0:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-29 23:33 ` Roman Zippel
2006-06-30 8:00 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2006-06-30 18:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-30 22:58 ` Michael Tokarev
2006-06-30 18:11 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-30 23:04 ` Michael Tokarev
2006-06-30 23:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-01 10:56 ` [klibc] " Jeff Bailey
2006-07-01 15:05 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-01 20:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-01 21:58 ` Al Viro
2006-07-01 22:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-02 0:05 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-02 0:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-02 0:38 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-02 0:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-01 22:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-03 7:23 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2006-07-03 21:36 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-01 15:22 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2006-07-01 15:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-30 23:32 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-11 4:48 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 10:29 ` Michael Tokarev
2006-07-11 11:27 ` [klibc] " Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 16:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-11 16:40 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 17:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-11 17:16 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 17:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-11 17:30 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 17:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-11 18:01 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 18:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-11 18:10 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 18:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-11 19:15 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 19:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-11 19:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-11 19:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-11 19:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-11 20:01 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-11 20:11 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 20:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-11 18:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-11 18:06 ` Michael Tokarev
2006-07-11 18:15 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 18:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-11 18:53 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-11 18:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-11 20:06 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 20:22 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 21:22 ` Greg KH
2006-07-12 16:54 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-12 16:58 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-12 17:01 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-12 21:36 ` Greg KH
2006-07-11 17:55 ` Michael Tokarev
2006-07-11 17:46 ` Michael Tokarev
2006-07-11 17:52 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 18:02 ` Michael Tokarev
2006-07-11 10:51 ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-07-11 13:45 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-11 14:28 ` Michael Tokarev
2006-07-11 15:13 ` [klibc] " Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 15:30 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-11 15:47 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 16:21 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-11 14:32 ` Rene Herman
2006-07-12 15:23 ` David Lang
2006-07-13 11:58 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-27 18:59 ` [klibc 00/43] klibc as a historyless patchset Milton Miller
2006-06-27 19:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-27 20:39 ` Milton Miller
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