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From: Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: Add SCHED_BGND (background) scheduling policy
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 18:03:55 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44AB726B.8070602@bigpond.net.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060705063550.GA28004@elte.hu>

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> 
>> ===================================================================
>> --- MM-2.6.17-mm6.orig/kernel/mutex.c	2006-07-04 14:37:43.000000000 +1000
>> +++ MM-2.6.17-mm6/kernel/mutex.c	2006-07-04 14:38:12.000000000 +1000
>> @@ -51,6 +51,16 @@ __mutex_init(struct mutex *lock, const c
>>  
>>  EXPORT_SYMBOL(__mutex_init);
>>  
>> +static inline void inc_mutex_count(void)
>> +{
>> +	current->mutexes_held++;
>> +}
>> +
>> +static inline void dec_mutex_count(void)
>> +{
>> +	current->mutexes_held--;
>> +}
>> +
> 
> NACK! This whole patch is way too intrusive for such a relatively small 
> gain.
> 
> also, if something doesnt hold a mutex, it might still be unsafe to 
> background it! For example if it holds a semaphore. Or an rwsem. Or any 
> other kernel resource that has exclusion semantics.
> 
> so unless this patch gets _much_ less complex and much less intrusive, 
> we'll have to stay with SCHED_BATCH and nice +19.

This means being less strict but (as you imply) that may be not much 
better than nice +19.  I'll have a look at it.

Of course, a comprehensive (as opposed to RT only) priority inheritance 
mechanism would make the "safe/unsafe to background" problem go away and 
make this patch very simple.  Any plans in that direction?

Peter
-- 
Peter Williams                                   pwil3058@bigpond.net.au

"Learning, n. The kind of ignorance distinguishing the studious."
  -- Ambrose Bierce

  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-05  8:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-04 23:35 [PATCH] sched: Add SCHED_BGND (background) scheduling policy Peter Williams
2006-07-05  0:14 ` Con Kolivas
2006-07-05  0:49   ` Peter Williams
2006-07-05  0:52     ` Con Kolivas
2006-07-05  8:05     ` Andreas Mohr
2006-07-05 14:04       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-05  0:44 ` Con Kolivas
2006-07-05  1:15   ` Peter Williams
2006-07-05  1:33     ` Con Kolivas
2006-07-05  4:20       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-05  3:06   ` Peter Williams
2006-07-05  6:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-07-05  8:03   ` Peter Williams [this message]
2006-07-05  8:15     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-05  8:19     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-07-05 17:40       ` Nick Piggin
2006-07-05 11:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-07-05 13:59   ` Peter Williams
2006-07-05 14:18     ` Peter Williams
2006-07-05 14:48     ` Mike Galbraith
2006-07-06 23:50       ` Peter Williams

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