From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: Add SCHED_BGND (background) scheduling policy
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 03:40:36 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44ABF994.7090204@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060705081934.GA1898@elte.hu>
Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>Of course, a comprehensive (as opposed to RT only) priority
>>inheritance mechanism would make the "safe/unsafe to background"
>>problem go away and make this patch very simple. Any plans in that
>>direction?
>
>
> that seems quite unlikely to happen. I think you are missing the biggest
> issue: for RT, if the priority inheritance mechanism does not extend to
> a given scheduling pattern it causes longer latencies, but no harm is
> done otherwise. But for SCHED_BGND we'd have to make sure _every_ place
> is priority-inversions safe - otherwise we risk a potential local DoS if
> a task with a critical resource is backgrounded! That's plain impossible
> to achieve.
Right. And it isn't just straightforward things like locks, but
any limited resource.
mempools and block device requests are two that come to mind.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-05 17:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-04 23:35 [PATCH] sched: Add SCHED_BGND (background) scheduling policy Peter Williams
2006-07-05 0:14 ` Con Kolivas
2006-07-05 0:49 ` Peter Williams
2006-07-05 0:52 ` Con Kolivas
2006-07-05 8:05 ` Andreas Mohr
2006-07-05 14:04 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-05 0:44 ` Con Kolivas
2006-07-05 1:15 ` Peter Williams
2006-07-05 1:33 ` Con Kolivas
2006-07-05 4:20 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-05 3:06 ` Peter Williams
2006-07-05 6:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-07-05 8:03 ` Peter Williams
2006-07-05 8:15 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-05 8:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-07-05 17:40 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2006-07-05 11:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-07-05 13:59 ` Peter Williams
2006-07-05 14:18 ` Peter Williams
2006-07-05 14:48 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-07-06 23:50 ` Peter Williams
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