From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@linuxmail.org>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, klibc@zytor.com
Subject: Re: [klibc 30/31] Remove in-kernel resume-from-disk invocation code
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 20:11:02 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44AC7F46.3050204@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200607061218.39202.ncunningham@linuxmail.org>
Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> Hi again.
>
> (Excuse me replying to myself, but this might help someone else).
>
> On Thursday 06 July 2006 11:45, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
>> Is there a klibc howto somewhere? I tried googling for 'klibc howto',
>> reading the files in Documentation/ and browsing your klibc mailing list
>> archive before asking!
>
>> What I'm wondering specifically is: Say a user needs to run some commands
>> to set up access to encrypted storage before they can resume. At the
>> moment, we'd tell them to put these commands and the echo > do_resume in
>> their linuxrc (or init) script prior to mounting their root filesystem.
>> Forgive me if I'm asking a stupid question but it's not immediately obvious
>> to me how they would now do that. I'd much rather follow a simple howto
>> than spend a good amount of time tracing function calls etc. I still see
>> init/initramfs.c, and it mentions both CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD and
>> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM. Would I be right in surmising that you can still have
>> an initrd or ramfs to do such things as the above, after klibc has done its
>> work? If not, is there some other way I'm ignorant of?
>
> For the record, I've since discovered that what you really want is an
> initramfs howto. I think I stuck with those old-fangled initrds for too long.
> Better update my desktop from Mandrake 10 too :)... is there a pattern here?
>
Okay, let's try to start from the beginning...
initramfs is, indeed, a replacement for initrd, but it's not a 1:1 map.
Instead, initramfs contents -- which can come from multiple sources!
-- is simply extracted right into rootfs.
kinit is a replacement for the in-kernel root-handling code, as well as
other related in-kernel code like resume from disk. It is compiled as a
monolithic binary for size reasons.
klibc is a very small C library which *can* be used to produce initramfs
binaries; in particular, it's used to produce kinit, and is small enough
that it can be realistically included with the kernel distribution.
If you provide your own /init in an initramfs, it will override the
default, which is /init -> /kinit. You can then choose to invoke kinit
if you want to; for example, you could try to resume from suspend2, and
invoke kinit if that fails.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-06 3:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-06-28 5:17 [klibc 00/31] klibc as a historyless patchset (updated and reorganized) H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 01/31] Add klibc/kinit to MAINTAINERS file H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 02/31] Main Makefile changes for klibc H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 03/31] Core klibc code H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 04/31] alpha support for klibc H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 15:43 ` Richard Henderson
2006-06-28 15:51 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 05/31] arm " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 06/31] cris " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 07/31] i386 " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 7:37 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-06-28 15:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 16:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-29 0:14 ` Roman Zippel
2006-06-29 0:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-29 23:43 ` Roman Zippel
2006-06-29 23:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-30 0:23 ` Roman Zippel
2006-06-30 1:28 ` [klibc] " Aaron Griffin
2006-06-30 13:56 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 08/31] ia64 " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 09/31] m32r " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 10/31] m68k " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 11/31] mips " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 12/31] mips64 " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 13/31] parisc " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 14/31] ppc " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 15/31] ppc64 " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 16/31] s390 " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 17/31] sh " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 18/31] sparc " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 19/31] sparc64 " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 20/31] x86_64 " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 21/31] Simple test suite " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 22/31] zlib " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 23/31] kinit: replacement for in-kernel do_mount, ipconfig, nfsroot H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 24/31] klibc basic build infrastructure H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 25/31] Miscellaneous utilities for klibc H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 26/31] dash - a small POSIX shell " H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 27/31] A port of gzip to klibc H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 28/31] sparc64: transmit arch-specific options to kinit via /arch.cmd H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 29/31] sparc32: transfer arch-specific options to /arch.cmd H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 30/31] Remove in-kernel resume-from-disk invocation code H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-05 23:40 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-05 23:58 ` Joshua Hudson
2006-07-06 0:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-06 0:37 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-06 0:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-06 1:45 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-06 2:18 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-06 3:11 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2006-07-06 3:28 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-07-06 10:26 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <200607061028.k66AS8UB012207@smtp.micromuse.com>
2006-07-06 10:58 ` IBM spam Re: " Pavel Machek
2006-07-06 13:02 ` Sean Young
2006-07-06 8:31 ` [klibc] " maximilian attems
2006-07-06 8:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-28 5:17 ` [klibc 31/31] Remove in-kernel root-mounting code H. Peter Anvin
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