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From: Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: Add SCHED_BGND (background) scheduling policy
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 09:50:11 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44ADA1B3.1080506@bigpond.net.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1152110907.8594.19.camel@Homer.TheSimpsons.net>

Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 23:59 +1000, Peter Williams wrote:
>> Mike Galbraith wrote:
>>> The task in the expired array could also be a !safe_to_background() task
>>> who already had a chance to run, and who's slice expired.
>> If it's !safe_to_background() it's in our interest to let it run in 
>> order to free up the resource that it's holding.
> 
> Only if there are waiters (or you know there will be some before the
> holder gets a chance to run again).  Even then, they might be background
> tasks, so it could still be ~wrong.
> 
> (yeah, comprehensive PI would be mucho tidier than tick time)

Yes.  Unfortunately, in Ingo's opinion, even if we have comprehensive PI 
it's unlikely to be reliable enough to guarantee putting tasks into the 
background is safe.  Of course, this wouldn't detract from its general 
usefulness -- just makes it no good for SCHED_BGND/SCHED_IDLEPRIO purposes.

Peter
-- 
Peter Williams                                   pwil3058@bigpond.net.au

"Learning, n. The kind of ignorance distinguishing the studious."
  -- Ambrose Bierce

      reply	other threads:[~2006-07-06 23:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-04 23:35 [PATCH] sched: Add SCHED_BGND (background) scheduling policy Peter Williams
2006-07-05  0:14 ` Con Kolivas
2006-07-05  0:49   ` Peter Williams
2006-07-05  0:52     ` Con Kolivas
2006-07-05  8:05     ` Andreas Mohr
2006-07-05 14:04       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-05  0:44 ` Con Kolivas
2006-07-05  1:15   ` Peter Williams
2006-07-05  1:33     ` Con Kolivas
2006-07-05  4:20       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-05  3:06   ` Peter Williams
2006-07-05  6:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-07-05  8:03   ` Peter Williams
2006-07-05  8:15     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-05  8:19     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-07-05 17:40       ` Nick Piggin
2006-07-05 11:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-07-05 13:59   ` Peter Williams
2006-07-05 14:18     ` Peter Williams
2006-07-05 14:48     ` Mike Galbraith
2006-07-06 23:50       ` Peter Williams [this message]

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