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From: Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>
To: Jeff Mahoney <jeffm@suse.com>
Cc: 7eggert@gmx.de, Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
	ReiserFS List <reiserfs-list@namesys.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] reiserfs: fix handling of device names with /'s in them
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 18:21:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44BAE619.9010307@namesys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44BABB14.6070906@suse.com>

Jeff Mahoney wrote:

> Hans Reiser wrote:
>
>
> Hans, we're all in agreement that we'd prefer drivers not use names with
> slashes in them,

there is nothing wrong with using names that have slashes.  The thing
that is wrong is somehow needing to translate them into names with "!"'s. 

> and it would be nice to correct drivers currently using
> them. The problem is that when you change the name of a device, that's a
> userspace visible change. 

So don't.  Why would user space care how you parse it and whether the
driver or reiserfs does it?

> Scripts that currently expect, say,
> /proc/partitions to contain cciss/<number> will break between kernel
> versions. Sysfs wants to use the device name as a pathname component,
> and as such translates the / to a !, the same as this patch proposes.
>
> Reiserfs gets involved because it expects that name to be usable as a
> file system pathname component when it is not intended to be one without
>  translating slashes into another character. The difference is that
> block device names are allowed to have slashes in them, while normal
> file system names are not. 

We should distinguish here between names and name components. 

> The fact is that device driver names, when in
> /dev can use separate components, like /dev/cciss/0, but when used in
> the manner reiserfs wants them to be used, they can't. Also, I'm not
> talking about name spaces like struct namespace, I mean that the group
> of names that block device drivers use have different constraints than
> the group of names that are allowable as file names.
>
> The fact is that this change is required for users deploying devices
> that use slashes in their names to see the proc data for a reiserfs file
> system. You can point the finger all you want at the block drivers in
> the mean time, but it's still a reiserfs problem.

I still do not grok why you need to change / to !.

Something is wrong.  Reiserfs is being asked to do something that
somebody else should be doing.

Hans

  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-17  1:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <6xQ4C-6NB-43@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <6xQea-6ZX-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
2006-07-14 16:10   ` [PATCH] reiserfs: fix handling of device names with /'s in them Bodo Eggert
2006-07-14 17:50     ` Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-16  7:12       ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-16 15:56         ` Jeffrey Mahoney
2006-07-16 18:14           ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-16 22:17             ` Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-17  1:21               ` Hans Reiser [this message]
2006-07-17  1:50                 ` Jeffrey Mahoney
2006-07-17  3:02                   ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-17  3:17                     ` Jeffrey Mahoney
2006-07-17  7:29                       ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-17 14:55                         ` Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-17 18:19                           ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-17 18:38                             ` Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-17 19:07                               ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-17 19:59                                 ` Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-17 21:03                                   ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-17 22:26                                     ` Rudy Zijlstra
2006-07-18  0:26                                     ` Horst von Brand
2006-07-18 16:38                                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-18 18:37                                 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-07-17 18:08                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-17 18:16                       ` Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-17 18:53                         ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-17 19:07                           ` Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-17 18:27                       ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-17 19:52                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-12 16:42 Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-12 16:57 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-07-12 17:02   ` Jeff Mahoney
2006-07-13  0:55 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-13  3:51   ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-13  4:00     ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-13  7:34       ` Hans Reiser
2006-07-13  5:23   ` H. Peter Anvin

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