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From: Tilman Schmidt <tilman@imap.cc>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
	Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de>,
	Grzegorz Kulewski <kangur@polcom.net>,
	Diego Calleja <diegocg@gmail.com>,
	arjan@infradead.org, caleb@calebgray.com
Subject: Re: Reiser4 Inclusion
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 21:12:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44BE8415.2040907@imap.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200607191904.k6JJ4cf0002159@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>

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On 19.07.2006 21:04, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:32:48 +0200, Tilman Schmidt said:
>  
>>Well, that doesn't make sense. You can't have your cake and eat it
>>too. Either you have out-of-tree code or you haven't. Documents
>>like stable_api_nonsense.txt explicitly discourage out-of-tree code,
>>which is formally equivalent to saying that all kernel code should
>>be in-tree. Therefore an attitude which says "go on developing that
>>code out-of-tree, it's not ready for inclusion yet" is in direct
>>contradiction with the foundations of the no-stable-API policy.
> 
> Which part of "read Documentation/SubmittingPatches.txt and do what it says,
> or it doesn't get into the kernel" do you have trouble understanding?

None. Why do you think I'd have? And what relevance does this have to
the present discussion?

> It isn't a case of "out of tree code or you haven't". There's actually
> *three* major categories:
> 
> 1) Code that's already in-tree and maintained.  These guys don't need to
> worry about the API, as it will usually get handled free of charge.
> 
> 2) Code that's out-of-tree, but a potential (after possible rework) candidate
> for submission (for instance, the hi-res timers, CKRM, some drivers, etc).
> These guys need to forward-port their code for API changes as they work
> towards getting their code into the tree.
> 
> 3) Code that's out-of-tree, but is so far out in left field that there's
> no way it will ever go in.  For instance, that guy with the MVS JCL emulator
> better not be holding his breath waiting.  And quite frankly, nobody else
> really cares whether they forward port their code or not.

Correct. And you could easily subdivide it further. Your point being?

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-19 19:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-17  3:02 Reiser4 Inclusion Caleb Gray
2006-07-17  9:25 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-17 11:48   ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2006-07-17 11:57     ` Alexander Gran
2006-07-17 14:06     ` Diego Calleja
2006-07-17 14:31       ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2006-07-17 15:51         ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-18  7:59           ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-18 20:47             ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-19  1:19               ` Joshua Hudson
2006-07-19  9:27               ` Tilman Schmidt
2006-07-19 11:00                 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-07-19 11:03                 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-07-19 15:32                   ` Tilman Schmidt
2006-07-19 19:04                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-19 19:12                       ` Tilman Schmidt [this message]
2006-07-19 20:09                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-19 22:36                           ` Tilman Schmidt
2006-07-19 20:29                       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-07-19 22:01                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-19 22:34                     ` Helge Hafting
2006-07-17 15:52         ` gmu 2k6
2006-07-17 15:57           ` Alexander Gran
2006-07-17 19:01         ` Horst von Brand
2006-07-17 15:13     ` Jeff Anderson-Lee
2006-07-17 15:56       ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-17 20:48       ` Erik Mouw
2006-07-18  0:49         ` Jeff Dike
2006-07-18 11:43           ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-07-17  9:44 ` Patrick McFarland
2006-07-17 11:07 ` Diego Calleja
2006-07-17 14:38 ` Alex Riesen
2006-07-17 18:05 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-18 23:10   ` Nix
2006-07-19  6:56 ` Reiser4 ACLs Marc Perkel
2006-07-19 15:03   ` Jan Engelhardt
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2006-07-17 22:34 Reiser4 Inclusion linux
     [not found] <06Jul25.011533edt.35900@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>
2006-07-30 22:02 ` Tilman Schmidt

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