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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	eike-kernel@sf-tec.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	aia21@cantab.net
Subject: Re: [BUG?] possible recursive locking detected
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:18:39 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44C884EF.6010705@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1153988398.21849.16.camel@imp.csi.cam.ac.uk>

Anton Altaparmakov wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 00:38 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
>>On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:15:27 +0100
>>Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>I'm surprised ext2 is allocating with __GFP_FS set, though. Would that
>>>>cause any problem?
>>>
>>>That is an ext2 bug IMO.
>>
>>There is no bug.
>>
>>What there is is an ill-defined set of rules.  If we want to tighten these
>>rules we have a choice between
> 
> 
> I beg to differ.  It is a bug.  You cannot reenter the file system when
> the file system is trying to allocate memory.  Otherwise you can never
> allocate memory with any locks held or you are bound to introduce an
> A->B B->A deadlock somewhere.

I don't think it is a bug in general. It really depends on the allocation:

- If it is a path that might be required in order to writeout a page, then
yes GFP_NOFS is going to help prevent deadlocks.

- If it is a path where you'll take the same locks as page reclaim requires,
then again GFP_NOFS is required.

For NTFS case, it seems like holding i_mutex on the write path falls foul
of the second problem. But I agree with Andrew that this is a critical case
where we do have to enter the fs. GFP_NOFS is too big a hammer to use.

I guess you'd have to change NTFS to do something sane privately, or come
up with a nice general solution that doesn't harm the common filesystems
that apparently don't have a problem here... can you just add GFP_NOFS to
NTFS's mapping_gfp_mask to start with?

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-07-27  9:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-26 16:05 [BUG?] possible recursive locking detected Rolf Eike Beer
2006-07-27  5:53 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-27  6:51   ` Nick Piggin
2006-07-27  7:15     ` Anton Altaparmakov
2006-07-27  7:38       ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-27  8:19         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2006-07-27  8:53           ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-27  9:28             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2006-07-27  9:46               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-07-27 14:31                 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2006-07-27 14:45                   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-07-27 18:04                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-27  9:18           ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2006-07-27  9:35             ` Anton Altaparmakov
2006-07-27 10:02               ` Nick Piggin
2006-07-27 12:30                 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2006-07-27  7:24     ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-27  7:29   ` Arjan van de Ven

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