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From: Tilman Schmidt <tilman@imap.cc>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Reiser4 Inclusion
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:02:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44CD2C76.2030700@imap.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <06Jul25.011533edt.35900@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>

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On 25.07.2006 07:15, Chris Siebenmann wrote:
> You write:
> | [...] Therefore an attitude which says "go on developing that
> | code out-of-tree, it's not ready for inclusion yet" is in direct
> | contradiction with the foundations of the no-stable-API policy.
> 
>  I don't think that there's a contradiction, because I believe that what
> the kernel developers are saying in general can be rewritten as:
> 
> 	- we don't care about things that are deliberately kept
> 	  out of the kernel
> *and*	- we also don't care about code that does not meet quality
> 	  or relevance standards

Actually, that *isn't* what I read regularly in lkml. Most statements of
rejection by kernel developers do *not* read "we don't care about that,
go away", but "this needs work here and there before we will accept it",
which in a way is the opposite of "we don't care".

But I am growing tired of this discussion. I tried to help, and instead
drew fire myself. My own fault of course. I misjudged the situation and
the emotional content of the ongoing dispute. I will now keep my tongue.

Regards
Tilman

PS: I was forced to give this answer publicly because your given E-mail
address wouldn't accept my private mail answer. My apologies if this is
not what you wanted.

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       reply	other threads:[~2006-07-30 22:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <06Jul25.011533edt.35900@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>
2006-07-30 22:02 ` Tilman Schmidt [this message]
2006-07-17 22:34 Reiser4 Inclusion linux
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-07-17  3:02 Caleb Gray
2006-07-17  9:25 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-17 11:48   ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2006-07-17 11:57     ` Alexander Gran
2006-07-17 14:06     ` Diego Calleja
2006-07-17 14:31       ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2006-07-17 15:51         ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-18  7:59           ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-18 20:47             ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-19  1:19               ` Joshua Hudson
2006-07-19  9:27               ` Tilman Schmidt
2006-07-19 11:00                 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-07-19 11:03                 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-07-19 15:32                   ` Tilman Schmidt
2006-07-19 19:04                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-19 19:12                       ` Tilman Schmidt
2006-07-19 20:09                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-19 22:36                           ` Tilman Schmidt
2006-07-19 20:29                       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-07-19 22:01                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-19 22:34                     ` Helge Hafting
2006-07-17 15:52         ` gmu 2k6
2006-07-17 15:57           ` Alexander Gran
2006-07-17 19:01         ` Horst von Brand
2006-07-17 15:13     ` Jeff Anderson-Lee
2006-07-17 15:56       ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-17 20:48       ` Erik Mouw
2006-07-18  0:49         ` Jeff Dike
2006-07-18 11:43           ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-07-17  9:44 ` Patrick McFarland
2006-07-17 11:07 ` Diego Calleja
2006-07-17 14:38 ` Alex Riesen
2006-07-17 18:05 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-18 23:10   ` Nix

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