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From: Amit Gud <agud@redhat.com>
To: Chase Venters <chase.venters@clientec.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hpa@zytor.com, deweerdt@free.fr
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH] sysctl for the latecomers
Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:04:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44CFA5A8.50105@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608011213190.12077@turbotaz.ourhouse>

Chase Venters wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Chase Venters wrote:
> Btw, wanted to add some comments on the specific approach:
> 
> 1. A ring hard-coded to 32 elements is IMO unuseable. While it may not 
> be a real limit for what use case you have in mind, if it's in the 
> kernel sooner or later someone else is going to use it and get bitten. 
> Imagine if they wrote in 33 entries, and the first one was some critical 
> security setting that ended up getting silently ignored...
> 
> 2. On the other hand, allowing it to grow unbounded is equally 
> unacceptable without a mechanism to list and clear the current "pending" 
> sysctl values. Unfortunately, at this point, you're starting to violate 
> "KISS".
> 

You figured it right, theres no "correct" number of elements that I 
could adhere to.

> Are the modules you refer to inserted during init at all? Because it 
> seems like it would be a lot more appropriate to just move sysctl until 
> after loading the modules, or perhaps running it again once they are 
> loaded.
> 

I have a case where sunrpc module gets inserted and 
sunrpc.tcp_slot_table_entries parameter is to be set _before_ nfs module 
is inserted. I agree that for this particular case user-space works 
(either udev rule, or modprobe.conf or sysctl after modprobe in 
initscripts), but am on a lookout for a more generic way for handling 
such cases - be it user-space or otherwise.


AG
-- 
May the source be with you.
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  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-01 18:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-01 14:49 [RFC] [PATCH] sysctl for the latecomers Amit Gud
2006-08-01 15:25 ` Frederik Deweerdt
2006-08-01 16:56 ` Chase Venters
2006-08-01 17:22   ` Chase Venters
2006-08-01 19:04     ` Amit Gud [this message]
2006-08-01 20:36       ` Chase Venters
2006-08-02 14:56     ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-08-01 17:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-08-01 18:54 ` Andi Kleen

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