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From: Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	containers@lists.osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Subject: Re: [Containers] [PATCH 6/7] vt: Update spawnpid to be a struct	pid_t
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:04:05 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44E2D175.1010506@sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m13bbx96tm.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>

> Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes:
> 
> 
>>Ar Maw, 2006-08-15 am 12:23 -0600, ysgrifennodd Eric W. Biederman:
>>
>>>This keeps the wrong process from being notified if the
>>>daemon to spawn a new console dies.
>>
>>Not sure why we count pids not task structs but within the proposed
>>implementation this appears correct so
> 
> 
> Basically struct pid is relatively cheap, 64bytes or so.
> struct task is expensive 10K or so, when all of the stacks
> and everything are included.
> 
> Counting pids allows the task to exit in user space and free up
> all of it's memory.
> 
> When /proc used to count the task struct it was fairly easy to
> deliberately oom a 32bit machine just by open up directories in
> /proc and then having the process exit.  rlimits didn't help because
> we don't count processes that have exited.
hey, hey. your patch doesn't help in this situation (much)!
inodes and dentries can still consume much memory.
it just makes the situation a bit better.

I wonder whether it is easy to have the following done with your implementation:
container tasks visible from host. theoretically having 2 pids (vpid, pid)
it should be implementable. Do you see any obstacles?

in other regards patches look pretty good. Good job!

Kirill


  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-16  8:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-15 18:21 Start using struct pid Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-15 18:23 ` [PATCH 1/7] pid: Implement access helpers for a tacks various process groups Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-15 18:40   ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-15 19:03     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-16  8:04     ` [Containers] " Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-15 18:23 ` [PATCH 2/7] pid: Add do_each_pid_task Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-16  3:10   ` [Containers] " Serge E. Hallyn
2006-08-16  4:28     ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-16  6:15       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-16  6:34     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-16 11:57       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-08-16 19:17   ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-08-17 21:16   ` [PATCH -mm] simplify pid iterators Oleg Nesterov
2006-08-15 18:23 ` [PATCH 3/7] pid: Implement signal functions that take a struct pid * Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-15 18:23 ` [PATCH 4/7] pid: Export the symbols needed to use " Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-15 18:23 ` [PATCH 5/7] pid: Implement pid_nr Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-15 18:37   ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-15 19:00     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-15 19:15       ` [Containers] " Dave Hansen
2006-08-16  6:29         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-16 16:27     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-16 17:48       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-16 18:19   ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-08-16 16:18     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-16 21:03       ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-08-16 17:18         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-15 18:23 ` [PATCH 6/7] vt: Update spawnpid to be a struct pid_t Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-15 18:53   ` Alan Cox
2006-08-15 18:45     ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-16  8:04       ` Kirill Korotaev [this message]
2006-08-16 14:23         ` [Containers] " Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-15 19:38   ` Ray Lehtiniemi
2006-08-16 19:35   ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-08-16 15:43     ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-16 17:55       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-15 18:23 ` [PATCH 7/7] file: Modify struct fown_struct to use a struct pid Eric W. Biederman
2006-08-16 18:45   ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-08-16 18:48     ` Oleg Nesterov

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