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From: Martin Bligh <mbligh@mbligh.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Edward Falk <efalk@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Michael Davidson <md@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix x86_64 _spin_lock_irqsave()
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 08:53:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44EDCB83.2010806@mbligh.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060823214831.aa687ebe.akpm@osdl.org>

Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:10:09 +1000
> Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Edward Falk wrote:
>>
>>>Add spin_lock_string_flags and _raw_spin_lock_flags() to 
>>>asm-x86_64/spinlock.h so that _spin_lock_irqsave() has the same 
>>>semantics on x86_64 as it does on i386 and does *not* have interrupts 
>>>disabled while it is waiting for the lock.
>>>
>>>This fix is courtesy of Michael Davidson
>>
>>So, what's the bug? You shouldn't rely on these semantics anyway
>>because you should never expect to wait for a spinlock for so long
>>(and it may be the case that irqs can't be enabled anyway).
>>
>>BTW. you should be cc'ing Andi Kleen (x86+/-64 maintainer) on
>>this type of stuff.
>>
>>No comments on the merits of adding this feature. I suppose parity
>>with i386 is a good thing, though.
>>
> 
> 
> We put this into x86 ages ago and Andi ducked the x86_64 patch at the time.
> 
> I don't recall any reports about the x86 patch (Zwane?) improving or
> worsening anything.  I guess there are some theoretical interrupt latency
> benefits.

Spinlocks are indeed meant to be held for a short time, but irq
disabling is meant to be shorter.

I think the real question is: what is the justification for disabling
interrupts when spinning for a lock? We should never disable interrupts
unless we have to.

M.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-24 15:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-24  2:57 [PATCH] Fix x86_64 _spin_lock_irqsave() Edward Falk
2006-08-24  3:10 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-24  4:48   ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-24 15:53     ` Martin Bligh [this message]
2006-08-26  7:52       ` Keith Owens
2006-08-24  6:45 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-24 11:04   ` Suleiman Souhlal
2006-08-24 11:13     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-24 11:32     ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-24 12:33       ` Suleiman Souhlal
2006-08-24 13:21         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-24 13:44           ` Suleiman Souhlal
2006-08-25  4:38   ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-25  5:33     ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-25  6:21     ` Andi Kleen

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