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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, len.brown@intel.com,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] maximum latency tracking infrastructure
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:58:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44EEAD8D.6010801@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44EE829C.10606@yahoo.com.au>

Nick Piggin wrote:
> Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>> Jesse Barnes wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, August 24, 2006 10:41 am, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>>>
>>>> The reason for adding this infrastructure is that power management in
>>>> the idle loop needs to make a tradeoff between latency and power
>>>> savings (deeper power save modes have a longer latency to running code
>>>> again).
>>>
>>>
>>> What if a processor was already in a sleep state when a call to 
>>> set_acceptable_latency() latency occurs? 
>>
>>
>> there's nothing sane that can be done in that case; any wake up 
>> already will cause the unwanted latency!
>> A premature wakeup is only making it happen *now*, but now is as 
>> inconvenient a time as any...
>> (in fact it may be a worst case time scenario, say, an audio 
>> interrupt...)
> 
> Surely you would call set_acceptable_latency() *before* running such
> operation that requires the given latency? And that set_acceptable_latency
> would block the caller until all CPUs are set to wake within this latency.
> 
> That would be the API semantics I would expect, anyway.

but that means it blocks, and thus can't be used in irq context

(the usage model I imagine happens most is a set_acceptable_latency() which can block during device init,
with either no or a very course limit, and a modify_acceptable_latency(), which cannot block, from irq context or
device open)

  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-25  7:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-24 17:41 [RFC] maximum latency tracking infrastructure Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-24 19:18 ` Len Brown
2006-08-24 21:08 ` Jesse Barnes
2006-08-24 21:20   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-24 21:29     ` Jesse Barnes
2006-08-24 21:50       ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-25  4:54     ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-25  7:58       ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2006-08-25  8:26         ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-25  8:30           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-24 21:52 ` Daniel Walker
2006-08-24 21:57   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-24 22:16     ` Daniel Walker
2006-08-24 22:24 ` Matthew Garrett
2006-08-25  8:19   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-24 22:52 ` Matt Mackall
2006-08-25  7:56   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-25 14:54     ` Matt Mackall

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