From: David Masover <ninja@slaphack.com>
To: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@linuxmail.org>
Cc: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
Edward Shishkin <edward@namesys.com>,
Stefan Traby <stefan@hello-penguin.com>,
Hans Reiser <reiser@namesys.com>,
Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
reiserfs-list@namesys.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 03:23:47 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44F3F993.3000907@slaphack.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1156830102.3790.15.camel@nigel.suspend2.net>
Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 06:05 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
>>>>>> Hmm. LZO is the best compression algorithm for the task as measured by
>>>>>> the objectives of good compression effectiveness while still having very
>>>>>> low CPU usage (the best of those written and GPL'd, there is a slightly
>>>>>> better one which is proprietary and uses more CPU, LZRW if I remember
>>>>>> right. The gzip code base uses too much CPU, though I think Edward made
>>>>> I don't think that LZO beats LZF in both speed and compression ratio.
>>>>>
>>>>> LZF is also available under GPL (dual-licensed BSD) and was choosen in favor
>>>>> of LZO for the next generation suspend-to-disk code of the Linux kernel.
>>>>>
>>>>> see: http://www.goof.com/pcg/marc/liblzf.html
>>>> thanks for the info, we will compare them
>>> For Suspend2, we ended up converting the LZF support to a cryptoapi
>>> plugin. Is there any chance that you could use cryptoapi modules? We
>>> could then have a hope of sharing the support.
>> I am throwing in gzip: would it be meaningful to use that instead? The
>> decoder (inflate.c) is already there.
>>
>> 06:04 shanghai:~/liblzf-1.6 > l configure*
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 jengelh users 154894 Mar 3 2005 configure
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 jengelh users 26810 Mar 3 2005 configure.bz2
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jengelh users 30611 Aug 28 20:32 configure.gz-z9
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jengelh users 30693 Aug 28 20:32 configure.gz-z6
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 jengelh users 53077 Aug 28 20:32 configure.lzf
>
> We used gzip when we first implemented compression support, and found it
> to be far too slow. Even with the fastest compression options, we were
> only getting a few megabytes per second. Perhaps I did something wrong
> in configuring it, but there's not that many things to get wrong!
All that comes to mind is the speed/quality setting -- the number from 1
to 9. Recently, I backed up someone's hard drive using -1, and I
believe I was still able to saturate... the _network_. Definitely try
again if you haven't changed this, but I can't imagine I'm the first
persson to think of it.
From what I remember, gzip -1 wasn't faster than the disk. But at
least for (very) repetitive data, I was wrong:
eve:~ sanity$ time bash -c 'dd if=/dev/zero of=test bs=10m count=10; sync'
10+0 records in
10+0 records out
104857600 bytes transferred in 3.261990 secs (32145287 bytes/sec)
real 0m3.746s
user 0m0.005s
sys 0m0.627s
eve:~ sanity$ time bash -c 'dd if=/dev/zero bs=10m count=10 | gzip -v1 >
test; sync'
10+0 records in
10+0 records out
104857600 bytes transferred in 2.404093 secs (43616282 bytes/sec)
99.5%
real 0m2.558s
user 0m1.554s
sys 0m0.680s
eve:~ sanity$
This was on OS X, but I think it's still valid -- this is a slightly
older Powerbook, with a 5400 RPM drive, 1.6 ghz G4.
-1 is still worlds better than nothing. The backup was over 15 gigs,
down to about 6 -- loads of repetitive data, I'm sure, but that's where
you win with compression anyway.
Well, you use cryptoapi anyway, so it should be easy to just let the
user pick a plugin, right?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-29 8:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-27 0:34 Reiser4 und LZO compression Alexey Dobriyan
2006-08-27 8:04 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-27 8:49 ` Ray Lee
2006-08-27 9:42 ` David Masover
2006-08-28 17:34 ` Jindrich Makovicka
2006-08-28 18:05 ` Edward Shishkin
2006-08-28 12:42 ` Jörn Engel
2006-08-29 13:14 ` PFC
2006-08-29 17:38 ` David Masover
[not found] ` <44F322A6.9020200@namesys.com>
2006-08-28 17:37 ` Stefan Traby
2006-08-28 18:15 ` Edward Shishkin
2006-08-28 21:48 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-08-28 23:32 ` Hans Reiser
2006-08-29 4:05 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-08-29 5:41 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-08-29 8:23 ` David Masover [this message]
2006-08-29 9:57 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-08-29 11:09 ` Ray Lee
2006-08-29 11:38 ` Edward Shishkin
2006-08-29 22:03 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-08-29 4:59 ` Paul Mundt
2006-08-29 5:47 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-08-29 9:29 ` Edward Shishkin
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