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From: Karim Yaghmour <karim@opersys.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>,
	Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Jes Sorensen <jes@sgi.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>,
	Tom Zanussi <zanussi@us.ibm.com>,
	Richard J Moore <richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>,
	Michel Dagenais <michel.dagenais@polymtl.ca>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	William Cohen <wcohen@redhat.com>,
	"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@mbligh.org>
Subject: Re: tracepoint maintainance models
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:12:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <450DF28E.3050101@opersys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060918000703.GA22752@elte.hu>


Ingo Molnar wrote:
> yeah. If you look at the API suggestions i made, they are such. There 
> can be differences though to 'static tracepoints used by static 
> tracers': for example there's no need to 'mark' a static variable, 
> because dynamic tracers have access to it - while a static tracer would 
> have to pass it into its trace-event function call.

That has been your own personal experience of such things. Fortunately
by now you've provided to casual readers ample proof that such
experience is but limited and therefore misleading. The fact of the
matter is that *mechanisms* do not "magically" know what detail is
necessary for a given event or how to interpret it: only *markup* does
that.

Karim
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President  / Opersys Inc.
Embedded Linux Training and Expertise
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  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-18  0:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-17  9:40 The emperor is naked: why *comprehensive* static markup belongs in mainline Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-17 11:21 ` Paul Mundt
2006-09-17 14:36   ` tracepoint maintainance models Ingo Molnar
2006-09-17 15:02     ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-17 15:09       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-17 17:18         ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-17 23:27           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-17 23:41           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18  0:17             ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-18  9:01               ` Jes Sorensen
2006-09-17 20:37         ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-17 22:34           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-17 15:36     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-18  0:07       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18  1:12         ` Karim Yaghmour [this message]
2006-09-18  1:13           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18  2:32             ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18  2:57               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18  3:54                 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18  4:09                   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18  4:43                     ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18  2:43             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-18  3:21               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18  4:26                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-18  5:08                   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 12:25             ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-09-18 15:02               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 15:45                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-18 15:48                 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-18 15:22                   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 16:19                     ` Alan Cox
2006-09-18 16:15                       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 17:02                         ` Alan Cox
2006-09-18 16:15                       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-09-18 17:02                         ` Alan Cox
2006-09-18 17:27                           ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-09-18 18:04                             ` Alan Cox
2006-09-18 17:54                               ` Martin Bligh
2006-09-18 18:05                               ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-09-18 19:10                           ` Vara Prasad
2006-09-18 19:49                             ` Alan Cox
2006-09-18 19:39                               ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-09-18 20:28                               ` Vara Prasad
2006-10-06  5:33                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-10-06 13:01                                   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-10-06 14:23                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2006-10-06 23:17                                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-18 15:47                   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-09-18 15:42                     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 16:30                 ` MARKER mechanism, try 2 Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-18 16:28                   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18 17:47                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-18 19:39                       ` Alan Cox
2006-09-17 20:19     ` tracepoint maintainance models Nicholas Miell
2006-09-17 23:06       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18  0:05         ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-18  1:52           ` Theodore Tso
2006-09-19 12:58           ` tracing - consensus building insteat of dogfights Christoph Hellwig
2006-09-19 13:25             ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-19 13:45             ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-19 14:25               ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18  0:10         ` tracepoint maintainance models Nicholas Miell
2006-09-18  0:43           ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-18  0:56         ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18  0:56           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18  2:09             ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18  3:30               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18  3:52                 ` Theodore Tso
2006-09-18  4:11                   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18  4:24                   ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18  4:32                     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18  5:03                       ` LTTng and SystemTAP (Everyone who is scared to read this huge thread, skip to here) Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-18 15:11                         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-23 15:50                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-18  5:37                       ` tracepoint maintainance models Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 20:12                   ` Michel Dagenais
2006-09-18  4:14                 ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18  4:09                   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-18  4:57                     ` Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18  1:03   ` The emperor is naked: why *comprehensive* static markup belongs in mainline Karim Yaghmour
2006-09-18 15:53 ` Jose R. Santos
2006-09-18 17:28   ` Karim Yaghmour

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