From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.19 -mm merge plans
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 14:20:00 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4512D7D0.8030501@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060921105959.a55efb5f.akpm@osdl.org>
Andrew Morton wrote:
> Jeff: "I want faster release cycles because <no reason given>"
All the standard goodness that "release early, release often" provides.
* Avoiding the achingly long wait where huge amounts of changes pile up,
then go in. It should be OBVIOUS that
merge 10,000 changes. global test. repeat
is worse than
merge 1,000 changes. global test. repeat.
I think it's patently unfair to complain about bugs and regressions,
then limit developers to 3-4 test points [mainline releases] per year.
* Faster release cycles means code doesn't spend a quarter of the year
in limbo before users test it and give good feedback.
* Code stands a better chance of getting more review.
* Regressions are perceived to be fixed more quickly, if the fix
requires more than just 1-2 lines going to stable@kernel.org.
* Submitters don't have to wait for a quarter of a year in order for
their submissions to hit a mainline release.
With this last release, I just didn't see the value at all to going all
the way to -rc7. There weren't huge numbers of testers screaming about
-rc1 and -rc2. It just seemed like we delayed for no good reason other
than a blind hope that the passage of time would fix bugs.
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-09-21 18:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-20 20:54 2.6.19 -mm merge plans Andrew Morton
2006-09-20 21:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-20 21:42 ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-09-20 21:53 ` USB: fix autosuspend-autoresume with CONFIGRe: " Jiri Kosina
2006-09-20 22:09 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-20 22:41 ` Greg KH
2006-09-20 21:55 ` Autofs4 breakage (was 2.6.19 -mm merge plans) Trond Myklebust
2006-09-20 22:13 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-21 3:39 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-21 23:25 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-09-22 15:55 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-26 4:10 ` Ian Kent
2006-09-21 0:09 ` 2.6.19 -mm merge plans Martin J. Bligh
2006-09-21 0:22 ` ZONE_DMA (was: Re: 2.6.19 -mm merge plans) Andrew Morton
2006-09-21 0:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-21 1:03 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-21 15:59 ` James Bottomley
2006-09-21 0:50 ` ZONE_DMA Martin J. Bligh
2006-09-21 1:10 ` ZONE_DMA Christoph Lameter
2006-09-21 1:23 ` ZONE_DMA Martin J. Bligh
2006-09-21 15:58 ` ZONE_DMA Christoph Lameter
2006-09-21 16:57 ` ZONE_DMA Martin Bligh
2006-09-21 17:54 ` ZONE_DMA Christoph Lameter
2006-09-21 23:15 ` ZONE_DMA Martin Bligh
2006-09-22 2:59 ` ZONE_DMA Christoph Lameter
2006-09-22 17:21 ` ZONE_DMA Jesse Barnes
2006-09-22 17:39 ` ZONE_DMA Jesse Barnes
2006-09-22 18:08 ` ZONE_DMA Christoph Lameter
2006-09-22 18:26 ` ZONE_DMA Jesse Barnes
2006-09-22 18:32 ` ZONE_DMA Christoph Lameter
2006-09-22 18:39 ` ZONE_DMA Jesse Barnes
2006-09-22 18:40 ` ZONE_DMA Christoph Lameter
2006-09-22 19:06 ` ZONE_DMA Jesse Barnes
2006-09-22 19:07 ` ZONE_DMA Christoph Lameter
2006-09-22 17:35 ` ZONE_DMA Martin Bligh
2006-09-22 17:37 ` ZONE_DMA Christoph Lameter
2006-09-21 0:40 ` 2.6.19 -mm merge plans Christoph Lameter
2006-09-21 2:28 ` 2.6.19 -mm merge plans (NTP changes) john stultz
2006-09-21 2:40 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-21 10:24 ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-25 16:50 ` john stultz
2006-09-25 17:04 ` Ray Lee
2006-09-25 17:38 ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-21 4:22 ` 2.6.19 -mm merge plans Jeff Garzik
2006-09-21 5:07 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-21 5:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-21 9:12 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-21 6:36 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-21 6:48 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-21 11:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-22 13:16 ` release cycle (Re: 2.6.19 -mm merge plans) Pavel Machek
2006-09-21 9:16 ` 2.6.19 -mm merge plans Alan Cox
2006-09-21 10:55 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-21 15:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-21 15:50 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-21 17:59 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-21 18:20 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2006-09-21 18:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-21 18:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-21 18:55 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-21 19:46 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-09-21 20:37 ` Diego Calleja
2006-09-21 21:35 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-09-21 20:38 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-21 20:49 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-09-21 21:33 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-09-21 21:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-21 21:52 ` David Miller
2006-09-21 22:05 ` Dave Jones
2006-09-21 22:44 ` David Miller
2006-09-22 8:35 ` Russell King
2006-09-22 15:48 ` Dave Jones
2006-09-22 16:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-22 20:08 ` Roland Dreier
2006-09-22 20:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-23 8:29 ` Ryan Anderson
2006-09-24 7:48 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2006-09-24 9:20 ` Russell King
[not found] ` <20060924142353.6c725128.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-24 18:23 ` Sean
2006-09-24 22:34 ` Stefan Richter
[not found] ` <20060924190758.132c0008.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-24 23:07 ` Sean
2006-09-24 23:09 ` Russell King
[not found] ` <20060924192308.ef60880a.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-24 23:23 ` Sean
2006-09-25 0:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-11 14:09 ` Pierre Ossman
2006-09-24 19:38 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-09-22 16:24 ` Alan Cox
2006-09-22 16:08 ` Dave Jones
2006-09-22 16:29 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-22 17:09 ` Dave Jones
2006-09-22 17:11 ` Dave Jones
2006-09-22 18:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-22 18:26 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-24 6:33 ` Lennert Buytenhek
2006-09-22 1:03 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-09-24 18:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-25 3:07 ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-25 11:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-25 18:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-22 6:33 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-23 8:06 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-23 9:52 ` David Woodhouse
2006-09-21 13:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-21 17:35 ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-22 13:06 ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-22 19:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-22 20:29 ` hires timer patchset [was Re: 2.6.19 -mm merge plans] Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2006-09-23 11:07 ` 2.6.19 -mm merge plans Pavel Machek
2006-09-22 20:12 ` Dave Jones
2006-09-21 14:04 ` Apple Motion Sensor (was: 2.6.19 -mm merge plans) Michael Hanselmann
[not found] ` <20060921234637.GA9742@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-09-21 23:46 ` 2.6.19 -mm merge plans Fengguang Wu
2006-09-21 23:59 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20060922003223.GA9952@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-09-22 0:32 ` Fengguang Wu
2006-09-23 14:48 ` Gene Heskett
[not found] ` <20060924024239.GA11671@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-09-24 2:42 ` Fengguang Wu
2006-09-24 14:25 ` Diego Calleja
2006-09-22 9:24 ` David Woodhouse
2006-09-22 10:10 ` David Woodhouse
2006-09-22 10:42 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-22 11:20 ` David Woodhouse
2006-09-22 14:48 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-09-23 10:44 ` David Woodhouse
2006-09-22 12:32 ` 2.6.19 -mm merge plans: AVR32 Haavard Skinnemoen
2006-09-22 14:42 ` 2.6.19 -mm merge plans Christoph Hellwig
2006-09-22 16:03 ` 2.6.19 -mm merge plans (ecryptfs) Andrew Morton
2006-09-22 16:53 ` Michael Halcrow
2006-09-25 14:59 ` [PATCH -mm updated] PCMCIA: Add few IDs into ide-cs Marcin Juszkiewicz
2006-09-25 15:48 ` Alan Cox
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2006-09-22 2:00 2.6.19 -mm merge plans linux
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