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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Lennart Sorensen <lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
Cc: Dax Kelson <dax@gurulabs.com>,
	Linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: Smaller compressed kernel source tarballs?
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:13:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45140B95.8080305@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060922140007.GK13639@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>

Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 02:43:46PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> 7zip (LZMA) decompresses quickly, and the decompressor text is actually 
>> smaller than the equivalent for gzip.  Quite nice.
>>
>> What is not nice is the code for the compressor, which is a total mess. 
>>  I have been holding out on implementing LZMA on kernel.org, because 
>> just as zip (deflate) didn't become common in the Unix world until an 
>> encapsulation format that handles things expected in the Unix world, 
>> e.g. streaming, was created (gzip), I don't think LZMA is going to be 
>> widely used until there is an "lzip" which does the same thing.  I 
>> actually started the work of adding LZMA support to gzip, but then 
>> realized it would be better if a new encapsulation format with proper 
>> 64-bit support everywhere was created.
> 
> It doesn't handle streaming?
> 
> So you can't do: tar c dirname | 7zip dirname.tar.7z ?
> 

Nope, and in particular you can't do:

tar cf - dirname | 7zip | ssh ...

This is because 7zip is an archiving format in its own right, much like 
zip.  What we want is something that is to 7zip what gzip is to zip.

	-hpa

  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-22 16:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-21 20:32 Smaller compressed kernel source tarballs? Dax Kelson
     [not found] ` <20060921204250 .GN13641@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
2006-09-21 20:42 ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-09-21 21:40   ` Dax Kelson
2006-09-22 14:00     ` Lennart Sorensen
     [not found]   ` <20060921171747.9ae2b42e.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-21 21:17     ` Sean
2006-09-21 21:41     ` Dax Kelson
2006-09-21 21:50       ` Bob Copeland
     [not found]       ` <20060921175717.272c58ee.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-21 21:57         ` Sean
2006-09-21 22:00         ` David Lang
2006-09-21 22:24           ` Dave Jones
2006-09-21 22:16             ` David Lang
2006-09-21 22:40               ` Dave Jones
2006-09-21 22:34                 ` David Lang
     [not found]                   ` <20060921193823.ec49d446.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-21 23:38                     ` Sean
     [not found]         ` <Pin e.LNX.4.63.0609211455570.17238@qynat.qvtvafvgr.pbz>
2006-09-21 22:25           ` Sean
     [not found]             ` <20060921182554.23044ca3.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-21 22:20               ` David Lang
2006-09-21 21:43   ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-09-22 14:00     ` Lennart Sorensen
2006-09-22 16:13       ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2006-09-22 16:13       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-22 16:33         ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-09-22 17:41           ` Johannes Stezenbach
2006-09-22 18:09             ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-09-22 18:19               ` Michael Tokarev
2006-09-22 18:26                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-09-25 11:51                   ` Paulo Marques
2006-09-25 15:47                     ` H. Peter Anvin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-10-02  3:35 Drew Scott Daniels
2006-10-02  3:32 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2006-10-02  3:35 ` Willy Tarreau
     [not found]   ` <Pi ne.LNX.4.63.0610012205280.28534@qynat.qvtvafvgr.pbz>
2006-10-02  5:11   ` David Lang
2006-10-02  5:49     ` Willy Tarreau
2006-10-02 15:16     ` Phillip Susi
2006-10-02 15:48       ` David Lang
2006-10-02 20:20         ` Phillip Susi
2006-10-02 20:12           ` David Lang
2006-10-02 20:35             ` Willy Tarreau
     [not found]             ` <2006 1002203527.GA585@1wt.eu>
2006-10-02 21:49               ` Sean
     [not found]                 ` <20061002174938.bb82027d.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-10-02 21:42                   ` David Lang
2006-10-03  2:48                   ` Willy Tarreau
2006-10-03 10:28   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-03 18:24     ` Phillip Susi

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