From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>
Cc: Martin Bligh <mbligh@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] Linux Kernel Markers 0.13 for 2.6.17
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 18:02:06 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <45187C0E.1080601@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060926004535.GA2978@Krystal>
Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> To protect code from being preempted, the macros preempt_disable and
> preempt_enable must normally be used. Logically, this macro must make sure gcc
> doesn't interleave preemptible code and non-preemptible code.
>
No, it only needs to prevent globally visible side-effects from being
moved into/out of preemptable blocks. In practice that means memory
updates (including the implicit ones that calls to external functions
are assumed to make).
> Which makes me think that if I put barriers around my asm, call, asm trio, no
> other code will be interleaved. Is it right ?
>
No global side effects, but code with local side effects could be moved
around without changing the meaning of preempt.
For example:
int foo;
extern int global;
foo = some_function();
foo += 42;
preempt_disable();
// stuff
preempt_enable();
global = foo;
foo += other_thing();
Assume here that some_function and other_function are extern, and so gcc
has no insight into their behaviour and therefore conservatively assumes
they have global side-effects.
The memory barriers in preempt_disable/enable will prevent gcc from
moving any of the function calls into the non-preemptable region. But
because "foo" is local and isn't visible to any other code, there's no
reason why the "foo += 42" couldn't move into the preempt region.
Likewise, the assignment to "global" can't move out of the range between
the preempt_enable and the call to other_thing().
So in your case, if your equivalent of the non-preemptable block is the
call to the marker function, then there's a good chance that the
compiler might decide to move some other code in there.
Now it might be possible to take the addresses of labels to inhibit code
motion into a particular range:
{
__label__ before, after;
asm volatile("" : : "m" (*&&before), "m" (*&&after)); // gcc can't know what we're doing with the labels
before: ;
// stuff
after: ;
}
but that might be risky for several reasons: I don't know of any
particular promises gcc makes in this circumstance; I suspect taking the
address of a label will have a pretty severe inhibition on what
optimisations gcc's is willing to use (it may prevent inlining
altogether); and this looks pretty unusual, so there could be bugs.
J
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-09-26 1:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-25 23:33 [PATCH] Linux Kernel Markers 0.13 for 2.6.17 Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-25 23:56 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-26 0:16 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-26 0:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-26 0:45 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-26 1:02 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2006-09-26 2:59 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-26 5:03 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-26 18:04 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-26 18:57 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-26 19:08 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-26 19:49 ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2006-09-26 20:05 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2006-09-26 0:06 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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