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From: Martin Bligh <mbligh@mbligh.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
	Matti Aarnio <matti.aarnio@zmailer.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Spam, bogofilter, etc
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 11:07:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4521557C.3060500@mbligh.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610021050350.3952@g5.osdl.org>


>>MX checking is as broken or more broken than bayes.
> 
> I have to say, OSDL has been doing MX checking, and it's effective as 
> hell. Most importantly, when it _does_ break, it's not because some 
> "content" is considered inappropriate, it's because some ISP does 
> something technically wrong.
> 
> OSDL also refused to talk to open mail relays etc. I got into something of 
> a (fairly civilized) shouting match with John Gilmore over it, who used to 
> send out email from a "fake open mail relay" on princuple (maybe he still 
> does). He claimed I was censoring his free speech rights when I didn't 
> read his emails, but I just told him that I was expressing my right to not 
> listen to people who are so stupid that they can't configure their email 
> servers.

That was actually pretty broken. Sending Andrew email stopped working
for ages. IIRC because I was sending email from my home address through
the IBM work server. It's not a trouble-free solution, and otherwise
fairly reasonable things stop working. I forget what the OSDL admins
did in the end ... I think put in a specific exception for an IP range.

M.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-02 18:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-29 14:23 Spam, bogofilter, etc Lee Revell
2006-09-29 14:29 ` Ismail Donmez
2006-10-01 23:23 ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-10-02  0:41   ` Kasper Sandberg
2006-10-02 10:03 ` Matti Aarnio
2006-10-02 15:21   ` Lee Revell
2006-10-02 15:24     ` Martin J. Bligh
2006-10-02 15:48       ` Lee Revell
2006-10-02 17:39         ` Erik Andersen
2006-10-03  3:37           ` dean gaudet
2006-10-03  4:05             ` Neil Brown
2006-10-02 16:40       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-02 17:49         ` Alan Cox
2006-10-02 17:19           ` David Lang
2006-10-02 18:02           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-02 18:07             ` Martin Bligh [this message]
2006-10-02 18:22             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-10-02 18:29               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-02 19:31                 ` jdow
2006-10-02 19:31                 ` Antonio Vargas
2006-10-02 21:58             ` Alan Cox
2006-10-04 22:41             ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-03 17:32           ` Mariusz Kozlowski
2006-10-02 21:33         ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-10-03  8:08         ` John Graham-Cumming
2006-10-03  8:52           ` Howard Chu
2006-10-03  9:40         ` Devdas Bhagat
2006-10-03  9:43         ` Helge Hafting
2006-10-03 10:50         ` Gordon Cormack
2006-10-02 17:34   ` Thomas Davis
2006-10-03 16:42   ` Mariusz Kozlowski
2006-10-27 22:30 ` Oleg Verych
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-10-03  6:08 Paul Zimmerman
2006-10-03 12:51 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
     [not found] <20061003060346.55869.qmail@web80821.mail.yahoo.com>
2006-10-03  7:01 ` Neil Brown

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