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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	discuss@x86-64.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [discuss] Re: Please pull x86-64 bug fixes
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 19:36:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <452596F9.3010107@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0610051600440.3952@g5.osdl.org>

Linus Torvalds wrote:
> If we had the
> 
> 	void __iomem *cfg = mmiocfg_remap(dev);
> 
> interface, we could (fairly easily) blacklist known-bad motherboards if we 
> needed to, and also, it would allow drivers to check whether mmiocfg is 
> available. It's possible that some drivers might want it if it exists, but 
> it wouldn't necessarily be somethign that they _require_, so they could 
> gracefully handle the case of getting a NULL config space handle back.
> 
> For example, for some devices, maybe they'd lose some error handling 
> capability, but they'd still be able to work otherwise.

Ugh.  Large PCI config space is going to be the norm real soon.  That 
will just nasty up drivers.


> We _can_ do the same thing with checking the error return value from 
> "pci_read_config_xxxx()", and use the "use different access method if the 
> index is >= 256", but I have to say, that just makes my gag reflex 
> trigger. Having the same function just silently do two different things 
> depending on the offset just sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Agreed.


> I dunno. I'm not likely to care _that_ deeply about this all, but I do 
> think that machines that hang on device discovery is just about the worst 
> possible thing, so I'd much rather have ten machines that can't use their 
> very rare devices without some explicit kernel command line than have even 
> _one_ machine that just hangs because MMIOCFG is buggered.
> 
> (And we should probably have the "pci=mmiocfg" kernel command line entry 
> that forces MMIOCFG regardless of any e820 issues, even for normal 
> accesses).

Agreed.

	Jeff



  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-10-05 23:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-05 17:10 Please pull x86-64 bug fixes Andi Kleen
2006-10-05 17:17 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-05 17:31   ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2006-10-05 17:43     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-05 17:53       ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-05 19:29         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-05 19:42           ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-05 20:02             ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-05 20:10               ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-05 22:45               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-05 22:52                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-05 23:07                   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-05 23:21                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-05 23:36                     ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2006-10-06  0:57                     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-06  1:29                       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-06 11:03                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-06 16:07                   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-06 16:19                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-06 22:01                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-10-06 22:31                       ` Duran, Leo
2006-10-06 23:06                         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-07  5:23                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-07  2:20                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-08 20:59                           ` Duran, Leo
2006-10-08 22:42                             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-05 22:00         ` Alan Cox
2006-10-05 21:44           ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-06 11:14             ` Alan Cox
2006-10-16 12:21               ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-05 17:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-05 17:27   ` [discuss] " Andi Kleen
2006-10-05 22:59     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-05 23:05       ` Andi Kleen

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