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From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Muli Ben-Yehuda <muli@il.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] KVM: Kernel-based Virtual Machine
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 10:37:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <453B2DDB.3010303@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200610211816.27964.arnd@arndb.de>

Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> This looks _a_lot_ like what we're doing for the SPUs in the cell processor,
> except that we're using different calls into the kernel. Have you looked
> into what we have implemented there? The code is in
> arch/powerpc/platforms/cell/spufs. I think it would be a good abstraction
> to use for you as well, maybe we could even move to a common infrastructure,
> as I have heard from a few other projects that want to do similar things.
>
> The main differences to your interface are:
>
> - A file system is used instead of a character device
> - Directories, not open file descriptors represent contexts
> - Two new syscalls were introduced (spu_create/spu_run)
> - instead of ioctls, files represent different bits of information,
>   you can read/write, poll or mmap them.
>
> Your example above could translate to something like:
>
>    int kvm_fd = kvm_create("/kvm/my_vcpu")
>    int mem_fd = openat(kvm_fd, "mem", O_RDWR);
>    void *mem = mmap(mem_fd, ...); // main memory
>    void *fbmem = mmap(mem_fd, ...); // frame buffer memory
>    int regs_fd = openat(kvm_fd, "regs", O_RDWR);
>    int irq_fd = openat(kvm_fd, "regs", O_WRONLY);
>
>    if (debugger) {
>      int fd = openat(fvm_fd, "debug", O_WRONLY);
>      write(fd, "1", 1);
>      close(fd);
>    }
>    while (1) {
>       int exit_reason = kvm_run(kvm_fd, &kvm_descriptor);
>       switch (exit reason) {
>           handle mmio, I/O etc. might call
>              write(irq_fd, &interrupt_packet, sizeof (interrupt_packet));
>              pread(regs_fd, &rax, sizeof rax, KVM_REG_RAX);
>    }
>   

[cc'ing some others to solicit their opinion]


I like this.  Since we plan to support multiple vcpus per vm, the fs 
structure might look like:

/kvm/my_vm
    |
    +----memory          # mkdir to create memory slot.
    |     |              #    how to set size and offset?
    |     |
    |     +---0          # guest physical memory slot
    |         |
    |         +-- dirty_bitmap  # read to get and atomically reset
    |                           # the changed pages log
    |
    |
    +----cpu             # mkdir/rmdir to create/remove vcpu
          |
          +----0
          |     |
          |     +--- irq     # write to inject an irq
          |     |
          |     +--- regs    # read/write to get/set registers
          |     |
          |     +--- debugger   # write to set breakpoints/singlestep mode
          |
          +----1
                [...]

It's certainly a lot more code though, and requires new syscalls.  Since 
this is a little esoteric does it warrant new syscalls?

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-22  8:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-19 13:45 [PATCH 0/7] KVM: Kernel-based Virtual Machine Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:47 ` [PATCH 1/7] KVM: userspace interface Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 14:30   ` John Stoffel
2006-10-19 14:43     ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 23:26       ` Greg KH
2006-10-19 14:50     ` Alan Cox
2006-10-19 14:51       ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 15:25         ` John Stoffel
2006-10-19 18:49       ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 19:10         ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 19:17           ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-20  7:36             ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-20 15:33               ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-22  8:10                 ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 20:36         ` Alan Cox
2006-10-19 18:46   ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 19:04     ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 19:09       ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 19:26         ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 19:31           ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 22:15             ` Alan Cox
2006-10-20  7:42             ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-20 15:35               ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 20:10       ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-19 20:14   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-20  7:16     ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-21 15:50       ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22  8:19         ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-21 13:37   ` Steven Rostedt
2006-10-22  8:14     ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:48 ` [PATCH 2/7] KVM: Intel virtual mode extensions definitions Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 20:19   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-19 21:54     ` Alan Cox
2006-10-20  7:17     ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-21 13:48   ` Steven Rostedt
2006-10-22  8:17     ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:49 ` [PATCH 3/7] KVM: kvm data structures Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:53 ` [PATCH 5/7] KVM: mmu virtualization Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 20:26   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-20  7:24     ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:54 ` [PATCH 6/7] KVM: x86 emulator Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:56 ` [PATCH 7/7] KVM: plumbing Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 13:58 ` [PATCH 0/7] KVM: Kernel-based Virtual Machine Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 16:05 ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-19 16:09   ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 19:02     ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-19 19:14       ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 19:28         ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-20  7:37           ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 17:31 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2006-10-19 18:00   ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 18:12     ` Randy Dunlap
2006-10-19 18:14       ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-19 18:30         ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-10-21 16:16     ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22  8:37       ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2006-10-22 15:23         ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 16:18           ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 16:51             ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 17:01               ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 17:06                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 17:41                   ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 17:47                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 17:56                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-10-22 18:00                   ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 18:36                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 18:41                       ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 18:49                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 18:55                           ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-22 22:26                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-23 22:29                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-10-22 20:01                   ` Alan Cox
2006-10-22 20:45                   ` Roland Dreier
2006-10-23  0:29                   ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-25 16:42                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-22 19:59               ` Alan Cox
2006-10-22 22:28                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-23  0:27                   ` Roland Dreier
2006-10-23  0:39                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-23  0:51                       ` Roland Dreier
2006-10-22 17:39         ` Anthony Liguori
2006-10-22 17:53           ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-22 19:56         ` Alan Cox
2006-10-23  7:42           ` Avi Kivity
2006-10-24 21:38       ` kvm_create() (was Re: [PATCH 0/7] KVM: Kernel-based Virtual Machine) Andy Isaacson
2006-10-19 18:55   ` [PATCH 0/7] KVM: Kernel-based Virtual Machine Anthony Liguori

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