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From: "Giacomo A. Catenazzi" <cate@debian.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	proski@gnu.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: incorrect taint of ndiswrapper
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:21:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4540A867.307@debian.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1161859199.12781.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Alan Cox wrote:
> The stopping loading is purely because it now uses _GPLONLY symbols,
> which is fine until the user wants to load a windows driver except for
> the old CIPE driver. Some assumptions broke somewhere along the way and
> the chain of events that was never forseen unfolded.
> 
>> Now, if we do want to disallow gpl module loading after ndis-wrapper has
>> been used then fine
> 
> The problem is we do the dynamic link at module load time. We would have
> to unlink the module if it tried to taint itself, which is clearly not
> what the end user needs to suffer. Having the taint function actually
> taint and printk + return a "Linked gplonly you can't" error seems the
> better solution.
> 
> Really ndiswrapper shouldn't be using _GPLONLY symbols, that would
> actually make it useful to the binary driver afflicted again and more
> likely to be legal.

I'm confused on the discussion:
legal? I don't find how a windo$e driver can be "derived work" of Linux,
and anyway they use a "standard" interface. So it is acceptable for GPL
(IMHO and IANAL). so it is not a legal problem.

I see only a development question:
should we allow untrusted module to know and modify the
"intimate" part of kernel, and cause compability and other large
amount of problems into kernel developers, distribution and users?

So it is a political question, not a legal question!

ciao
	cate

  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-26 12:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-25 20:11 incorrect taint of ndiswrapper Pavel Roskin
2006-10-25 20:30 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-25 20:40   ` Kyle Moffett
2006-10-25 21:04     ` Alan Cox
2006-10-25 21:06   ` Pavel Roskin
2006-10-25 21:33     ` David Weinehall
2006-10-25 22:02       ` Pavel Roskin
2006-10-25 22:54         ` Alan Cox
2006-10-25 22:58       ` Alan Cox
2006-10-26  3:23         ` David Weinehall
2006-10-26 13:13           ` Thierry Vignaud
2006-10-26 13:21             ` Gianluca Alberici
2006-10-26  3:59   ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-26  9:03     ` Gianluca Alberici
2006-10-26 10:39     ` Alan Cox
2006-10-26 12:21       ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi [this message]
2006-10-26 12:59         ` Gianluca Alberici
2006-10-26 14:41       ` Al Viro
2006-10-26 14:55         ` Alan Cox
2006-10-26 16:00       ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-26 16:26         ` Gianluca Alberici
2006-10-27 14:24           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-27 15:14             ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-26 19:19       ` Pavel Roskin
2006-10-26 21:46         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-26 22:29           ` Pavel Roskin
2006-10-26 23:00             ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-26 23:36               ` Sven-Haegar Koch
2006-10-27  0:57                 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-26 23:47               ` Pavel Roskin
2006-10-27 12:52             ` Roland Kuhn
2006-10-27 15:53               ` Pavel Roskin
2006-10-26 17:26     ` [PATCH ??] " Randy Dunlap
2006-10-27 14:23       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-27 15:27         ` Randy Dunlap
2006-10-27 18:26           ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-27 22:56             ` Florin Malita
2006-10-27 22:56               ` Randy Dunlap
2006-10-27 23:05               ` Alan Cox
2006-10-27 23:02                 ` Randy Dunlap
2006-10-27 23:12                 ` Florin Malita
2006-10-27 23:23                 ` Oleg Verych
2006-10-29 11:27             ` Gianluca Alberici
2006-10-27 21:32         ` Florin Malita
2006-10-27  4:32     ` Florin Malita
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-10-23  5:41 Giridhar Pemmasani
2006-10-23  5:53 ` Gianluca Alberici
2006-10-23  6:25 ` Chase Venters
2006-10-23  6:41   ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2006-10-23  6:48     ` Gianluca Alberici
2006-10-23  7:12     ` Chase Venters
2006-10-23 11:07       ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2006-10-23  9:10     ` Gianluca Alberici
2006-10-23  9:39     ` Michal Schmidt
2006-10-23  8:24 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2006-10-23 10:41 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-23 11:35   ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2006-10-23 13:00     ` Alan Cox
2006-10-24  2:43       ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2006-10-24  3:11         ` Randy Dunlap
2006-10-24 12:12           ` Pekka Enberg
2006-10-24 12:22             ` Alan Cox
2006-10-24 14:07         ` Alan Cox
2006-10-23 18:36   ` Zan Lynx
2006-10-24 11:59     ` Jan Engelhardt

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