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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] splice : two smp_mb() can be omitted
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 09:16:05 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4547CB25.3080603@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200610311151.33104.dada1@cosmosbay.com>

Eric Dumazet wrote:

>On Tuesday 31 October 2006 10:40, Nick Piggin wrote:
>
>
>>Uh, there is nothing that says mutex_unlock or any unlock
>>functions contain an implicit smp_mb(). What is given is that the
>>lock and unlock obey aquire and release memory ordering,
>>respectively.
>>
>>a = x;
>>xxx_unlock
>>b = y;
>>
>>In this situation, the load of y can be executed before that of x.
>>And some architectures will even do so (i386 can, because the
>>unlock is an unprefixed store; ia64 can, because it uses a release
>>barrier in the unlock).
>>
>
>Hum... it seems your mutex_unlock() i386/x86_64 copy is not same as mine :)
>

OK, replace xxx with mutex, and what I've said still holds true for ia64.

>Maybe we could document the fact that mutex_{lock|unlock}() has or has not an 
>implicit smp_mb().
>

It does not, none of the unlock functions ever have.

>If not, delete smp_mb() calls from include/asm-generic/mutex-dec.h 
>

They should be deleted (and from mutex-xchg). NOT because there is no 
need for
a memory barrier, but because the atomic_alter_value_and_return_something
functions always provide a barrier before and after the operation, as per
Documentation/atomic_ops.txt

Again, lock / unlock operations require acquire / release consistency. 
This is a
memory ordering operation. It is not equivalent to smp_mb, though.

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-31 22:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-30  9:03 [PATCH 1/2] lockdep: spin_lock_irqsave_nested() Peter Zijlstra
2006-10-30  9:06 ` [PATCH 2/2] lockdep: annotate bcsp driver Peter Zijlstra
2006-10-30  9:06   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-10-30  9:30   ` Marcel Holtmann
2006-10-30  9:31   ` [PATCH 2/2] lockdep: annotate bcsp driver - v2 Peter Zijlstra
2006-10-30  9:07 ` [PATCH 1/2] lockdep: spin_lock_irqsave_nested() Ingo Molnar
2006-10-30 13:12 ` Jarek Poplawski
2006-10-30 13:27   ` Jarek Poplawski
2006-10-30 13:40   ` [PATCH 1/2] lockdep: spin_lock_irqsave_nested() -v2 Peter Zijlstra
2006-10-30 14:12     ` Jarek Poplawski
2006-10-31  6:48 ` [PATCH 1/2] lockdep: spin_lock_irqsave_nested() Andrew Morton
2006-10-31  7:25   ` [PATCH] splice : two smp_mb() can be omitted Eric Dumazet
2006-10-31  7:32     ` Jens Axboe
2006-10-31  7:41       ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-31  7:46         ` Jens Axboe
2006-10-31  9:40     ` Nick Piggin
2006-10-31  9:49       ` Jens Axboe
2006-10-31 10:51       ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-31 22:16         ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2006-10-31 23:08           ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-31 23:45             ` Nick Piggin
2006-11-02 17:02         ` [PATCH] splice : Must fully check for fifos Eric Dumazet
2006-11-02 17:05           ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-02 19:07             ` Jens Axboe
2006-11-03  8:50               ` Jens Axboe

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