From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965711AbWKDVWi (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Nov 2006 16:22:38 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S965710AbWKDVWi (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Nov 2006 16:22:38 -0500 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.172]:39655 "EHLO ug-out-1314.google.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S965711AbWKDVWh (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Nov 2006 16:22:37 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ke1InHGmlCMS3eLCY5ASFOrTUs50fB79yenMOaG/RH3+69LvouEPLqgJG5imHUubvl+shX2eeR1R3BTM3ZP6hSX2tGBuVbHwYg9Us5aGeqgHjrku2FqkR2mkDgT9JXgH3eR51ls3zdAnkpq2VzNVvq621ft7427wylkkn1lSyjo= Message-ID: <454D04B6.9010209@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:22:39 +0059 From: Jiri Slaby User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0a1 (X11/20060724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrian Bunk CC: Jesper Juhl , Alan Cox , Linux kernel mailing list Subject: Re: removing drivers and ISA support? [Was: Char: correct pci_get_device changes] References: <4540F79C.7070705@gmail.com> <20061026222525.GP27968@stusta.de> <9a8748490610261531s539b0861t621e95c785b53d7@mail.gmail.com> <45414641.6060709@gmail.com> <20061026235628.GT27968@stusta.de> In-Reply-To: <20061026235628.GT27968@stusta.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Fri, Oct 27, 2006 at 01:35:06AM +0159, Jiri Slaby wrote: >> Jesper Juhl wrote: >>> On 27/10/06, Adrian Bunk wrote: >>>> On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 07:59:56PM +0200, Jiri Slaby wrote: >>>>> ... >>>>> And what about (E)ISA support. When converting to pci probing, >>>> should be ISA bus >>>>> support preserved (how much is ISA used in present)? -- it makes >>>> code ugly and long. >>>> >>>> There seem to be still many running 486 machines - and only the last 486 >>>> boards also had PCI slots. >>>> >>>> While deprecating OSS drivers, I got emails from people still using some >>>> of the ISA cards. >> That might be a problem if the whole subsystem disappears, but if only ISA >> support from some driver is pruned away, they are still able to use the old >> driver by replacing the new one from some older kernel. >> Then, we'll get nicer drivers in return. > > - this doesn't work for people using distribution kernels > - "by replacing the new one from some older kernel" doesn't sound > reasonable - 3 or 4 point releases later it will have become pretty > unlikely that the driver will still work unmodified > (if you disagree, please name one ISA driver where the 2.6.15 version > compiles without any modifications in 2.6.19-rc3) Ok, thank all for the notes, -- http://www.fi.muni.cz/~xslaby/ Jiri Slaby faculty of informatics, masaryk university, brno, cz e-mail: jirislaby gmail com, gpg pubkey fingerprint: B674 9967 0407 CE62 ACC8 22A0 32CC 55C3 39D4 7A7E