From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tiwai@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ALSA: hda-intel - Disable MSI support by default
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:11:54 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <455A938A.4060002@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0611141935390.3349@woody.osdl.org>
Linus Torvalds wrote:
> HOWEVER - that's only true on systems with no other PCI bridges. Even if
> you have an Intel NB/SB, what about other bridges in that same system, and
> the devices behind them?
>
> Now, I think that a MSI thing should look like a PCI write to a magic
> address (I'm really not very up on it, so correct me if I'm wrong), and
> thus maybe bridges are bound to get it right, and the only thing we really
> need to worry about is the host bridge. Maybe. In that case, it might be
> sensible to have a host-bridge white-table, and if we know all Intel
> bridges that claim to support MSI do so correctly, then maybe we can just
> say "ok, always enable it for Intel host bridges".
That's pretty much the idea behind MSI... it looks like any other PCI
bus transaction, rather than needing a separate pin.
> But right now I'm not convinced we really know what all goes wrong. Maybe
> it's just broken NVidia and AMD bridges. But maybe it's also individual
> devices that continue to (for example) raise _both_ the legacy IRQ line
> _and_ send an MSI request.
That reminds me of a potential driver bug -- MSI-aware drivers need to
call pci_intx(pdev,0) to turn off the legacy PCI interrupt, before
enabling MSI interrupts.
So far, MSI history on x86 has always followed these rules:
* it works on Intel
* it doesn't work [well | at all] on AMD/NV
The only thing that has changed recently is that people are trying to
get it working on AMD/NV as well. (Brice Goglin's stuff starting at
6397c75cbc4d7dbc3d07278b57c82a47dafb21b5 in 'git log')
Seems to me this hda-intel driver patch is fallout from
pci_msi_enabled() not failing on enough systems (all AMD/NV?).
Anyway, if you want your master switch, put it there, not in each driver...
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-11-15 4:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2006-11-15 1:34 ` [PATCH] ALSA: hda-intel - Disable MSI support by default Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 1:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 2:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 2:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 3:00 ` David Miller
2006-11-15 3:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 3:21 ` David Miller
2006-11-15 3:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 4:11 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2006-11-15 4:15 ` David Miller
2006-11-15 4:24 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 4:28 ` David Miller
2006-11-16 2:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-16 2:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-16 3:25 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-16 4:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-16 6:13 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-16 14:41 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-11-16 15:27 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-16 17:24 ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-15 19:09 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-11-15 19:23 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 19:49 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-11-15 22:31 ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-16 2:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-15 4:30 ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-15 4:56 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 15:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 18:30 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 18:45 ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-16 2:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-15 13:34 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-11-15 18:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 19:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 19:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 19:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 19:59 ` Mws
2006-11-15 20:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 20:53 ` Olivier Nicolas
2006-11-16 6:08 ` Yinghai Lu
2006-11-16 23:25 ` Olivier Nicolas
2006-11-15 21:10 ` Mws
2006-11-16 11:10 ` Mws
2006-11-15 4:14 ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-15 4:49 ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-15 4:57 ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-15 5:11 ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-15 22:43 ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-15 18:35 ` [PATCH] ACPI: use MSI_NOT_SUPPORTED bit Randy Dunlap
2006-11-15 18:44 ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-15 19:41 ` [PATCH v2] " Randy Dunlap
2006-11-15 19:58 ` [PATCH v3] " Randy Dunlap
2006-11-15 20:19 ` [PATCH] " Len Brown
2006-11-16 2:22 ` [PATCH] ALSA: hda-intel - Disable MSI support by default Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-15 10:31 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-11-15 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 16:24 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-15 16:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 18:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 19:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-15 19:34 ` Stephen Clark
2006-11-15 19:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 20:01 ` Stephen Clark
2006-11-15 18:32 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 18:32 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 18:58 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-11-15 19:15 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-16 10:44 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-11-16 23:01 ` Olivier Nicolas
2006-11-17 10:55 ` Takashi Iwai
2006-11-17 16:17 ` Yinghai Lu
2006-11-17 16:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-15 19:20 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-11-15 22:35 ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-15 4:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-15 4:07 ` David Miller
2006-11-15 7:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-15 10:06 ` Segher Boessenkool
2006-11-15 4:23 ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-15 7:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-15 4:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-11-15 4:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 4:24 ` Roland Dreier
2006-11-15 2:58 ` Randy Dunlap
2006-11-15 3:10 ` D. Hazelton
2006-11-15 3:30 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-15 3:53 ` D. Hazelton
2006-11-15 11:40 ` Alan
2006-11-16 4:06 ` D. Hazelton
2006-11-16 0:17 Lu, Yinghai
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-11-16 3:50 Lu, Yinghai
2006-11-16 23:36 ` Olivier Nicolas
2006-11-16 4:24 linux
2006-11-16 10:53 ` Alan
2006-11-16 16:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-16 4:25 Lu, Yinghai
2006-11-16 18:00 ` D. Hazelton
2006-11-16 23:54 Lu, Yinghai
2006-11-17 0:49 ` Olivier Nicolas
2006-11-17 17:42 Lu, Yinghai
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