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From: Karl MacMillan <kmacmillan@mentalrootkit.com>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, aviro@redhat.com,
	steved@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/19] CacheFiles: Permit a process's create SID to be overridden
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:52:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <455B53C7.1060604@mentalrootkit.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <26860.1163607813@redhat.com>

David Howells wrote:
> James Morris <jmorris@namei.org> wrote:
> 
>> Well, the value can be changed at any time, so you could be using a 
>> temporary fscreate value, or your new value could be overwritten 
>> immediately by writing to /proc/$$/attr/fscreate
> 
> Ah.  Hmmm.  By whom?  In selinux_setprocattr():
> 
> 	if (current != p) {
> 		/* SELinux only allows a process to change its own
> 		   security attributes. */
> 		return -EACCES;
> 	}
> 
> But current busy inside the cache and can't do this.
> 
>> I think we need to add a separate field for this purpose, which can only 
>> be written to via the in-kernel API and overrides fscreate.
> 
> So, like my acts-as security ID patch?
> 
> Would it still need to be controlled by MAC policy in that case?

Yes - if we are going to perform some MAC checks for this kernel process 
we need to have all checks performed.

   Doing so is
> a bit of a pain as it means I have a whole bunch of extra failures I still
> need to check for,

This is true for going this route in general rather than simply 
bypassing MAC. I don't think halfway makes any sense.

  and the race in which the rules might change is still a
> possibility I have to deal with.
> 

I don't think this is a race, it is revocation of access. If you check 
the access at every operation and correctly deal with access failures, 
then this shouldn't be a problem. Yes it is a pain, but that is how 
SELinux is supposed to work.

Karl


  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-15 17:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-14 20:06 [PATCH 00/19] Permit filesystem local caching and NFS superblock sharing David Howells
2006-11-14 20:06 ` [PATCH 02/19] FS-Cache: Provide a filesystem-specific sync'able page bit David Howells
2006-11-14 20:06 ` [PATCH 03/19] FS-Cache: Release page->private after failed readahead David Howells
2006-11-14 20:06 ` [PATCH 04/19] FS-Cache: Make kAFS use FS-Cache David Howells
2006-11-14 20:06 ` [PATCH 05/19] NFS: Use local caching David Howells
2006-11-15 12:38   ` Steve Dickson
2006-11-15 15:09   ` Trond Myklebust
2006-11-15 16:00   ` David Howells
2006-11-15 16:52     ` Trond Myklebust
2006-11-15 17:07     ` David Howells
2006-11-15 17:53       ` Trond Myklebust
2006-11-14 20:06 ` [PATCH 06/19] FS-Cache: NFS: Only obtain cache cookies on file open, not on inode read David Howells
2006-11-15 11:23   ` Steve Dickson
2006-11-14 20:06 ` [PATCH 07/19] CacheFiles: Add missing copy_page export for ia64 David Howells
2006-11-14 20:06 ` [PATCH 08/19] CacheFiles: Add a function to write a single page of data to an inode David Howells
2006-11-14 20:06 ` [PATCH 09/19] CacheFiles: Permit the page lock state to be monitored David Howells
2006-11-14 20:06 ` [PATCH 10/19] CacheFiles: Export things for CacheFiles David Howells
2006-11-14 20:06 ` [PATCH 12/19] CacheFiles: Permit a process's create SID to be overridden David Howells
2006-11-14 21:19   ` James Morris
2006-11-20 18:41     ` Stephen Smalley
2006-11-20 19:56       ` Karl MacMillan
2006-11-20 22:29       ` James Morris
2006-11-15 12:26   ` David Howells
2006-11-15 16:19     ` James Morris
2006-11-15 16:23     ` David Howells
2006-11-15 17:52       ` Karl MacMillan [this message]
2006-11-15 18:21       ` David Howells
2006-11-20 18:49       ` Stephen Smalley
2006-11-15 19:09     ` David Howells
2006-11-15 19:11     ` David Howells
2006-11-15 13:50   ` David Howells
2006-11-15 16:22     ` James Morris
2006-11-15 17:54       ` Karl MacMillan
2006-11-14 20:06 ` [PATCH 13/19] CacheFiles: Add an act-as SID override in task_security_struct David Howells
2006-11-14 20:06 ` [PATCH 14/19] CacheFiles: Permit an inode's security ID to be obtained David Howells
2006-11-14 20:06 ` [PATCH 15/19] CacheFiles: Get the SID under which the CacheFiles module should operate David Howells
2006-11-14 20:06 ` [PATCH 16/19] CacheFiles: Deal with LSM when accessing the cache David Howells
2006-11-14 21:27   ` James Morris
2006-11-14 20:06 ` [PATCH 17/19] CacheFiles: Use the VFS wrappers for inode ops David Howells
2006-11-14 20:07 ` [PATCH 18/19] CacheFiles: Use VFS lookup services David Howells
2006-11-14 20:07 ` [PATCH 19/19] CacheFiles: Permit daemon to probe inuseness of a cache file David Howells
2006-11-15 15:52   ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-11-15 16:10   ` David Howells
2006-11-15 10:10 ` [PATCH 20/19] CacheFiles: Use secid not sid lest confusion arise with session IDs David Howells
2006-11-15 13:17 ` [PATCH 21/19] CacheFiles: Set the file creation security ID whilst binding the cache David Howells
2006-11-15 13:23 ` [PATCH 22/19] FS-Cache: NFS: Rename NFS_INO_CACHEABLE David Howells
2006-11-15 16:42 ` [PATCH 23/19] FS-Cache: NFS: Don't invoke FS-Cache from nfs_zap_caches() David Howells
2006-11-15 16:51 ` [PATCH 24/19] FS-Cache: NFS: Remove old support for R/W caching David Howells
2006-11-15 17:22 ` [PATCH 25/19] FS-Cache: NFS: Wait in releasepage() if FS-Cache is busy and __GFP_WAIT is set David Howells
2006-11-17 10:01 ` [PATCH 26/19] CacheFiles: Don't include linux/proc_fs.h David Howells
2006-11-23 13:10 ` [PATCH 27/19] FS-Cache: Apply the PG_checked -> PG_fs_misc conversion to Ext4 David Howells
2006-11-23 13:17 ` [PATCH 28/19] FS-Cache: NFS: Handle caching being disabled correctly David Howells
2006-11-23 20:13 ` [PATCH 29/19] CacheFiles: Remove old obsolete cull function David Howells
2006-11-29 16:47 ` [PATCH 30/19] CacheFiles: Fix the allocate_page() op David Howells

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