From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S934304AbWKUElJ (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:41:09 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S934306AbWKUElJ (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:41:09 -0500 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.168]:61924 "EHLO ug-out-1314.google.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S934304AbWKUElG (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:41:06 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rAlMQFtxRpvHue7oGscYCr8DCq5qFrYlX1wSpy7kbJP5VHX0GbQl8Lxkzkhm2YcfCzNj4XsFS/Z13H5x1dPivrCFsQXjNT+UEQZZM2OrF/eeF/21ZLDRAv/zFksE1mUpovm16Q8ynk5CFfjlzwehkmOWF805/lIQUL/IdrHRNuI= Message-ID: <45628358.8080504@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:40:56 +0900 From: Tejun Heo User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.7 (X11/20061014) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Lord CC: Jeff Garzik , Andi Kleen , Pavel Machek , John Fremlin , kernel list , jim.kardach@intel.com Subject: Re: AHCI power saving (was Re: Ten hours on X60s) References: <87k639u55l.fsf-genuine-vii@john.fremlin.org> <20061113142219.GA2703@elf.ucw.cz> <45589008.1080001@garzik.org> <200611131637.56737.ak@suse.de> <455893E5.4010001@garzik.org> <4558B232.8080600@rtr.ca> In-Reply-To: <4558B232.8080600@rtr.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Mark Lord wrote: > Jeff Garzik wrote: >> Andi Kleen wrote: >> >>> How does it shorten its life? >> >> Parks your hard drive heads many thousands of times more often than it >> does without the aggressive PM features. > > Spinning-down would definitely shorten the drive lifespan. Does it do > that? > > Parking heads is more like just doing some extra (long) seeks. > Is this documented somewhere as being a life-shortening action? I wrote this in the other thread but writing here too for documentation purpose. * HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H30N locks up completely on slumber. Physical power removal and reapply is the only to recover it. * Some WD raptors spin down (yeap, that's right, it spins down) on slumber. Wonderful world of ATA. :-P -- tejun