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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	akpm@osdl.org, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] i386-pda UP optimization
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:10:08 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45637940.1090608@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200611212252.28493.ak@suse.de>

Andi Kleen wrote:
>> For umask/getppid, assuming you're just running 1e7 iterations, you're
>> seeing a difference of 25 and 35ns per iteration difference.  I wonder
>> why it would be different for different syscalls; I would expect it to
>> be a constant overhead either way.
>>     
>
> They got different numbers of current references? 
>   

My understanding is that Eric has changed UP current (and other PDA ops)
to not touch %gs at all, and the difference in reported times in due
omitting the %gs load in entry.S (though %gs is still save/restored on
the stack).

> On such micro benchmarks everything should be cache hot in theory
> (unless it's a system with really small cache)
>   

Yes, that would be my thought too, but maybe there's excessive aliasing
on one of the ways, but I think he's using a Pentium M which has a 8-way L1.

>> been planning on a patch to rearrange the gdt in order to pack all the
>> commonly used segment descriptors into one or two cache lines so that
>> all the segment register reloads can be done with a minimum of cache
>> misses.  It would be interesting for you to replace the:
>>
>>     movl $(__KERNEL_PDA), %edx; movl %edx, %gs
>>
>> with an appropriate read of the gdt entry, hm, which is a bit complex to
>> find.
>>     
>
> On UP it could be hardcoded. And oprofile can be used to profile for cache misses.
>   

Yes, assuming oprofile doesn't interfere with things too much. 
Actually, just counting cache miss events during the course of a syscall
would be most interesting (ie, no need to sample).


    J

  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-21 22:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-12  7:35 i386 PDA patches use of %gs Arjan van de Ven
2006-09-12  7:48 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-12  7:56   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-09-12  8:31     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 11:27     ` [PATCH] i386-pda UP optimization Eric Dumazet
2006-11-15 11:32       ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-15 17:20         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 17:24           ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-15 17:46             ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-15 17:49               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 17:58                 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-15 18:01                   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-21 11:38               ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-21 21:42                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-21 21:52                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-21 22:10                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2006-11-21 21:58                   ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-21 23:12                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 17:28           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 17:32             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 17:59               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 18:05                 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-15 18:28                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 18:31                     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 18:01             ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-15 18:24               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 19:06                 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-17  0:24                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 17:52       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-28 23:12       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-29  9:30         ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-29  9:56           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-13  1:00 ` i386 PDA patches use of %gs Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-13  9:59   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-13 16:17     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 18:26       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 18:29         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 18:43           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 18:44             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 18:39         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 18:43           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 18:49             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 18:49               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 19:00                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 19:03                   ` Ingo Molnar

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