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From: Matthias Schniedermeyer <ms@citd.de>
To: Pete Zaitcev <zaitcev@redhat.com>
Cc: usb-storage@lists.one-eyed-alien.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: single bit errors on files stored on USB-HDDs via USB2/usb_storage
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 10:16:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45792D74.5000901@citd.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061207154545.6eb516c4.zaitcev@redhat.com>

Pete Zaitcev wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 20:41:12 +0100, Matthias Schniedermeyer <ms@citd.de> wrote:
> 
> 
>>>>I'm using a Bunch auf HDDs in USB-Enclosures for storing files.
>>>>(currently 38 HDD, with a total capacity of 9,5 TB of which 8,5 TB is used)
>>>>[....]
>>>>This time i kept the defective files and used "vbindiff" to show me the
>>>>difference. Strangly in EVERY case the difference is a single bit in a
>>>>sequence of "0xff"-Bytes inside a block of varing bit-values that
>>>>changed a "0xff" into a "0xf7".
> 
> 
>>>This was almost certainly caused by hardware flaws in the USB interface 
>>>chips of the enclosures.  There's nothing the kernel can do about it 
>>>because the errors aren't reported; all that happens is that incorrect 
>>>data is sent to or from the drive.
>>
>>So pretty much all ich can do is to pray that the errors don't corrupt
>>the Filesystem-Metadata (XFS).
> 
> 
> No, this is not all. You should buy a variety of different enclosures
> with different chipsets (e.g. find a Freecom if you can),

That would definetly cost way to much money and time to be in any way
"efficient".

> and also use decent cables.

I replaced all cables with "High Quality"-cables.
But as a "Joe user" it is practically impossible to really know if the
cables are good.
All i can say is that the "original" cables that came with the
enclosures appear a bit thin and the ones i bought appear much more
thick, have gold plated contacts and have a massive plaited shielding
IOW appear much more trustworthy. But, as i said, in the end i can't
really know if they are better than the original ones.




Bis denn

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-08  9:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-06 22:01 single bit errors on files stored on USB-HDDs via USB2/usb_storage Matthias Schniedermeyer
2006-12-07 18:08 ` [usb-storage] " Alan Stern
2006-12-07 19:41   ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2006-12-07 23:45     ` Pete Zaitcev
2006-12-08  9:16       ` Matthias Schniedermeyer [this message]
2006-12-08 12:21         ` Stefan Richter
2006-12-08 16:18           ` John Stoffel
2006-12-07 22:10 ` DervishD
2006-12-07 22:57   ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2006-12-07 23:05     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-08  9:32     ` DervishD
     [not found] <fa./xvi+/Ji/HqNkvnGjUt4pIS9goM@ifi.uio.no>
2006-12-07  0:02 ` Robert Hancock
2006-12-07  9:03   ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
     [not found] ` <fa.nPT9ZJ5poT8fZx3aWy0MqRK/gto@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <fa.aML3aAeWqfac08XNpQa7Zu0AC8w@ifi.uio.no>
2006-12-08  3:18     ` Robert Hancock
2006-12-08  9:07       ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2006-12-08 10:25         ` Stefan Richter
2006-12-08 10:39           ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2006-12-08 11:01             ` Oliver Neukum
2006-12-08 12:27               ` Stefan Richter
2006-12-09  6:11               ` Ben Nizette
2006-12-09  8:18                 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-12-09 10:16                   ` Ben Nizette
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-12-10  8:44 linux
2006-12-10 15:37 ` Clemens Koller

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