From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932868AbXA3Fwf (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Jan 2007 00:52:35 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932954AbXA3Fwf (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Jan 2007 00:52:35 -0500 Received: from omx2-ext.sgi.com ([192.48.171.19]:60242 "EHLO omx2.sgi.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932868AbXA3Fwe (ORCPT ); Tue, 30 Jan 2007 00:52:34 -0500 Message-ID: <45BEDCF7.7070503@sgi.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 06:51:51 +0100 From: Jes Sorensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andi Kleen Cc: ksummit-2007-discuss@thunk.org, Theodore Tso , Sunil Naidu , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dirk.hohndel@intel.com, alan@redhat.com, David Miller Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2007-discuss] Re: [Ksummit-2006-discuss] 2007 Linux Kernel Summit References: <20070123.095756.30177490.davem@davemloft.net> <20070126195024.GE14759@thunk.org> <45BE8BF9.6020204@sgi.com> <200701300603.14004.ak@suse.de> In-Reply-To: <200701300603.14004.ak@suse.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Andi Kleen wrote: >> Next is the issue of subjects. Last year the final list came out a few >> days before the summit started, making it impossible for people who were >> not attending the summit to prepare material for those attending to >> present/include on their behalf. > > I think you completely miss the point of KS here. It is not the venue for someone > presenting long material on something and "selling" it, but for free > discussion on specific topics. That is why the invitee list is so > closely controlled to make sure these productions are productive. Last year the subject of DMA engines was put up, however most of the people interested in the subject weren't even invited. In that case there's really little concrete that can come out of the discussion. Expecting everyone to sit down and get the full picture of a subject in 5 minutes is unrealistic and will not lead to very useful outcome. > If there are any presentations they should be very short and merely be a > quick intro -- anything elaborate is not really welcome. That's quite different > from other conferences. Of course, thats why I suggested more like an abstract published in advance, like why is this subject worthy and what would the person like to achieve by having it discussed. Hopefully with some technical ideas included. Cheers, Jes