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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Rodolfo Giometti <giometti@enneenne.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] LinuxPPS: Pulse per Second support for Linux
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:56:20 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45DA6354.3000305@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070216185230.GO8882@enneenne.com>

Rodolfo Giometti wrote:
> 
> Please read the following consideratios before sending to /dev/null!
> :)
> 
> RFC considerations
> ------------------
> 
> While implementing a PPS API as RFC 2783 defines and using an embedded
> CPU GPIO-Pin as physical link to the signal, I encountered a deeper
> problem:
> 
>    At startup it needs a file descriptor as argument for the function
>    time_pps_create().
> 
> This implies that the source has a /dev/... entry. This assumption is
> ok for the serial and parallel port, where you can do something
> usefull beside(!) the gathering of timestamps as it is the central
> task for a PPS-API. But this assumption does not work for a single
> purpose GPIO line. In this case even basic file-related functionality
> (like read() and write()) makes no sense at all and should not be a
> precondition for the use of a PPS-API.
> 

It's not a precondition for a file descriptor, either.  There are plenty 
of ioctl-only device drivers in existence.

Furthermore, a file descriptor doesn't imply a device entry.  Consider 
pipe(2), for example.

As far as the kernel is concerned, a file handle is a nice, uniform 
system for providing communication between the kernel and user space. 
It doesn't matter if one can read() or write() on it; it's perfectly 
normal to support only a subset of the normal operations.

	-hpa

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-02-20  2:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-02-16 18:52 [PATCH 1/1] LinuxPPS: Pulse per Second support for Linux Rodolfo Giometti
2007-02-16 19:12 ` Russell King
2007-02-16 20:43   ` Rodolfo Giometti
2007-02-16 20:51     ` Russell King
2007-02-16 21:03       ` Rodolfo Giometti
2007-02-16 19:56 ` Jan Dittmer
2007-02-16 20:57   ` Rodolfo Giometti
2007-02-16 21:19     ` Jan Dittmer
2007-02-18 22:43 ` LinuxPPS: fixes Rodolfo Giometti
2007-02-20  2:56 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2007-02-21 12:04   ` [PATCH 1/1] LinuxPPS: Pulse per Second support for Linux Rodolfo Giometti
2007-02-21 16:14     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-02-22  8:51       ` Rodolfo Giometti
2007-02-21 23:51     ` Roman Zippel
2007-02-22  9:00       ` Rodolfo Giometti
2007-02-21 10:16 ` Pavel Machek
2007-02-22  9:59   ` Rodolfo Giometti
2007-03-13 21:38 ` Rodolfo Giometti
2007-03-13 22:48   ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-03-14  9:31     ` Rodolfo Giometti
2007-03-14 13:19       ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-03-14 14:06         ` Rodolfo Giometti
2007-03-14 14:12           ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-03-14 14:27             ` Rodolfo Giometti
2007-03-14 14:42               ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-03-14 14:52                 ` Rodolfo Giometti
2007-03-14 15:37                   ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-03-14 15:47                     ` Rodolfo Giometti
2007-03-14 20:57                       ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-03-15 10:29                         ` Rodolfo Giometti
2007-03-15 15:18                           ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-03-15 15:37                             ` Rodolfo Giometti
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-03-21  7:41 Rodolfo Giometti
2007-03-21  8:05 ` Jon K Hellan
2007-03-21  8:08   ` Rodolfo Giometti
2007-03-21 15:34   ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-05-02 19:33 ` Rodolfo Giometti
2007-05-02 21:06   ` john stultz
2007-05-03 10:03     ` Rodolfo Giometti
2007-05-10  7:27   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-10  9:48     ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-10 10:58     ` Rodolfo Giometti
2007-05-10 11:01       ` David Miller
2007-05-10 11:45         ` Rodolfo Giometti
2007-05-10 11:51           ` David Miller
2007-05-10 11:54             ` David Miller
2007-05-12  5:59     ` Rodolfo Giometti
2007-05-12  6:17       ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-12  7:08         ` Greg KH

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