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From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: "Michael K. Edwards" <medwards.linux@gmail.com>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: sys_write() racy for multi-threaded append?
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 06:53:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45F0F644.6020705@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f2b55d220703081645vc78905cj56afbc58ad2113d8@mail.gmail.com>

Michael K. Edwards a écrit :
> On 3/8/07, Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com> wrote:
>> Absolutely not. We dont want to slow down kernel 'just in case a fool 
>> might
>> want to do crazy things'
> 
> Actually, I think it would make the kernel (negligibly) faster to bump
> f_pos before the vfs_write() call.  Unless fget_light sets fput_needed
> or the write doesn't complete cleanly, you won't have to touch the
> file table entry again after vfs_write() returns.  You can adjust
> vfs_write to grab f_dentry out of the file before going into
> do_sync_write.  do_sync_write is done with the struct file before it
> goes into the aio_write() loop.  Result: you probably save at least an
> L1 cache miss, unless the aio_write loop is so frugal with L1 cache
> that it doesn't manage to evict the struct file.
> 
> Patch to follow.

Dont even try, you *cannot* do that, without breaking the standards, or 
without a performance drop.

The only safe way would be to lock the file during the whole read()/write() 
syscall, and we dont want this (this would be more expensive than current)
Dont forget 'file' may be some sockets/tty/whatever, not a regular file.

Standards are saying :

If an error occurs, file pointer remains unchanged.

You cannot know for sure how many bytes will be written, since write() can 
returns a count that is different than buflen.

So you cannot update fpos before calling vfs_write()

About your L1 'miss', dont forget that multi-threaded apps are going to 
atomic_dec_and_test(&file->f_count) anyway when fput() is done at the end of 
syscall. And you were concerned about multi-threaded apps, didnt you ?


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-03-09  5:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-08 23:08 sys_write() racy for multi-threaded append? Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-08 23:43 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-08 23:57   ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-09  0:15     ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-09  0:45       ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-09  1:34         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-03-09 12:19           ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-09 13:44             ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-09 14:10             ` Alan Cox
2007-03-09 14:59             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2007-03-10  6:43               ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-09  5:53         ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2007-03-09 11:52           ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-09  0:43 ` Alan Cox
     [not found] <7WzUo-1zl-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <7WAx2-2pg-21@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <7WAGF-2Bx-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <7WB07-3g5-33@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <7WBt7-3SZ-23@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-03-12  7:53         ` Bodo Eggert
2007-03-12 16:26           ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-12 18:48             ` Bodo Eggert
2007-03-13  0:46               ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-13  2:24                 ` Alan Cox
2007-03-13  7:25                   ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-13  7:42                     ` David Miller
2007-03-13 16:24                       ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-13 17:59                         ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-13 19:09                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-13 23:40                             ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-14  0:09                               ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-13 13:15                     ` Alan Cox
2007-03-14 20:09                       ` Michael K. Edwards
2007-03-16 16:43                         ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2007-03-16 17:25                         ` Alan Cox
2007-03-13 14:00                   ` David M. Lloyd

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