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From: Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: ABI coupling to hypervisors via CONFIG_PARAVIRT
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:38:20 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45F1EFEC.5060106@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070309231041.GA712@elte.hu>

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
>
>   
>> [...] If that is the case then my ABI worries would indeed be wrong 
>> and i'd owe Zach a big fat apology [and more] for my flames ;-)
>>     
>
> that apology i very much owe to Zach no matter what the outcome of the 
> discussion. Zach, some of my mindless characterisations of the quality 
> of VMI code (and of your intentions) were really out of bound and were 
> unfair, and i'd like to apologize for that :-/
>   

That's fine.  Despite not having an open source hypervisor, we really 
don't have evil intentions, and we really don't want to create tension 
or impede the progress of anyone else.  We think this work has positive 
benefits for Linux, our hypervisor, and others as well.

Some of our code did very much need fixing, and the positive thing we 
can take away from such a heated discussion is that we probably got more 
eyes on our code, maybe trying to find the evil, and instead finding 
bugs or things we could have done better.

At least someone did need to play devil's advocate, as this is an 
important thing to get right for the future direction of Linux, and I 
respect you for doing so, and don't take offense.

Zach

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-09 23:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-09 18:02 ABI coupling to hypervisors via CONFIG_PARAVIRT Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 18:28 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-09 18:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-09 19:24   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 19:51     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-09 20:12       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 21:05         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-09 21:06         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-09 21:36           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 21:40             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-09 22:27             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-09 22:50               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 23:07               ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-09 23:10             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 23:38               ` Zachary Amsden [this message]
2007-03-09 21:04       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 21:27         ` Chris Wright
2007-03-09 21:47           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 21:59             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-09 22:12               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 22:30                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-09 22:10             ` Chris Wright
2007-03-09 22:24               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 22:36                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-09 23:38                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 22:46                 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-09 23:02                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 23:13                 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-09 20:50     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-03-09 22:50       ` Lee Revell
2007-03-14  8:41         ` alsa was " Pavel Machek
2007-03-14 15:59           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2007-03-15  9:03             ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-15  9:10               ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-15  9:23                 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-15  9:32                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-09 19:00 ` Chris Wright

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