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From: Andy Whitcroft <apw@shadowen.org>
To: Martin Bligh <mbligh@mbligh.org>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Glauber de Oliveira Costa <glommer@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/18] Make common x86 arch area for i386 and x86_64 - Take 2
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:27:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45FE9DB8.8090801@shadowen.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45FB0548.5070909@mbligh.org>

Martin Bligh wrote:
> Christoph Lameter wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Martin Bligh wrote:
>>
>>> You have to do some sort of lookup anyway, and Andy seemed to have them
>>> all folded into one.
>>
>> What lookup would you need to do? On x86_64 even the TLB use is hidden
>> by the existing 2M entries for 1-1 mappings.
>>
>>> Or are you trying to avoid this by going to back to the crud we had
>>> in 2.4 where we pretend mem_map is one big array, indexed by pfn with
>>> huge sparsely mapped holes in it?
>>
>> Yes that the advanced way of doing it rather than adding useless
>> custom lookups.
> 
> For starters, you can't do that sparse a mapping on a 32 bit system.
> I'll let Andy explain the rest of it.
> 
>>> Would be nice to work out (and document somewhere) what the pros and
>>> cons of virtual memmap vs sparsemem were - ISTR one of the arguments
>>> was extremely sparsely layed out machines, and you needed sparsemem
>>> for that. But right now we have 3 solutions, which is not a good
>>> situation.
>>
>> Please read my posts to linux-mm on that subject. We discussed it last
>> year in detail and the agreement was that the sparsemem crud needs to
>> be taken out. Kame-san posted patches to do that.
> 
> "the agreement"? So Andy agreed to taking it out? Or you and Kame did?

The discussions centred around some patches from Kame which introduced a
SPARSMEM sub-model with a virtual memory map.  That was a supprisingly
clean change which if followed through to its logical conclusion would
remove a significant chunk of architecture specific vmemmap
implementation from ia64, and (as I understand it) was likely to allow
the same to be reused in s390x as well.

SPARSEMEM would still have its useful modes for smaller memory systems.

-apw

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-03-19 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-14  5:08 [PATCH 00/18] Make common x86 arch area for i386 and x86_64 - Take 2 Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 01/18] toplevel Kconfig changes Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 02/18] x86 Makefile changes Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 03/18] acpi Makefile updates Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 04/18] make the cpu/cpufreq/Makefile Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 05/18] mv kernel/cpu/cpufreq/p4-clockmod.c Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 06/18] mv kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-lib.h Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 07/18] mv kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-lib.c Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 08/18] create x86/kernel/cpu/Makefile Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 09/18] create x86/kernel/cpu/mcheck/Makefile Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 10/18] make the kernel Makefile Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 11/18] rm include pointer to x86_64 early_printk.c Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 12/18] rm include pointer to x86_64 tsc_sync.c Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 13/18] create x86/lib/Makefile Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 14/18] rm include pointer to i386 msr-on-cpu.c file Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 15/18] create x86/mm/Makefile Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 16/18] kconfig for oprofile Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 17/18] create x86/oprofile/Makefile Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  5:08 ` [PATCH 18/18] Straight file moves Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14 15:44   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-14 16:11     ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14  8:00 ` [PATCH 00/18] Make common x86 arch area for i386 and x86_64 - Take 2 Jan Engelhardt
2007-03-14 16:52   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-14 10:36 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-14  9:48   ` sujay g
2007-03-14 12:35   ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14 13:05     ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-14 13:36       ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14 18:47         ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-14 18:57           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-14 12:53   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-14 13:33     ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14 13:41       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-14 14:46         ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14 16:33           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-03-14 17:39             ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-14 17:51               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-14 16:49         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-14 18:15           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-15 16:50             ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-15 17:26               ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-14 15:54     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-14 18:09       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-14 18:27         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-14 19:59           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-14 20:07             ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-14 20:19               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-14 20:34                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-14 20:11             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-14 20:21               ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-14 21:34                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-03-15 15:50       ` Martin Bligh
2007-03-15 15:59         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-15 16:06           ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-15 16:23             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-15 16:47             ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-15 16:57               ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-15 17:01                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-15 17:21                   ` Steven Rostedt
2007-03-16  4:28               ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-16 11:44                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-16 20:15                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-16 20:25                     ` Martin Bligh
2007-03-16 20:48                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-16 20:53                         ` David Miller
2007-03-16 20:56                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-16 20:58                             ` David Miller
2007-03-16 20:59                         ` Martin Bligh
2007-03-16 21:02                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-16 21:51                             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-19 14:27                           ` Andy Whitcroft [this message]
2007-03-16 20:47                     ` David Miller
2007-03-16 20:52                       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-16 20:55                         ` David Miller
2007-03-16 20:59                           ` Christoph Lameter
2007-03-16 20:59                     ` Dave Hansen
2007-03-18 23:10                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-19 11:08                     ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-15 20:02           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-03-14 15:49   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-14 18:40   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-03-16  4:07 ` Kasper Sandberg

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