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From: Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>
To: Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>
Cc: Paa Paa <paapaa125@hotmail.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Lower HD transfer rate with NCQ enabled?
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 12:47:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4612852C.2030801@rtr.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46128175.2090506@redhat.com>

Chris Snook wrote:
> Paa Paa wrote:
>> I'm using Linux 2.6.20.4. I noticed that I get lower SATA hard drive 
>> throughput with 2.6.20.4 than with 2.6.19. The reason was that 2.6.20 
>> enables NCQ by defauly (queue_depth = 31/32 instead of 0/32). Transfer 
>> rate was measured using "hdparm -t":
>>
>> With NCQ (queue_depth == 31): 50MB/s.
>> Without NCQ (queue_depth == 0): 60MB/s.
>>
>> 20% difference is quite a lot. This is with Intel ICH8R controller and 
>> Western Digital WD1600YS hard disk in AHCI mode. I also used the next 
>> command to cat-copy a biggish (540MB) file and time it:
>>
>> rm temp && sync && time sh -c 'cat quite_big_file > temp && sync'
>>
>> Here I noticed no differences at all with and without NCQ. The times 
>> (real time) were basically the same in many successive runs. Around 19s.
>>
>> Q: What conclusion can I make on "hdparm -t" results or can I make any 
>> conclusions? Do I really have lower performance with NCQ or not? If I 
>> do, is this because of my HD or because of kernel?
> 
> hdparm -t is a perfect example of a synthetic benchmark.  NCQ was 
> designed to optimize real-world workloads. 

No, NCQ was designed to optimize *server* workloads:  lots of *small*,
random I/O's.

But WD drives, in particular the Raptor series, have a firmware "feature"
that disables "drive readahead" whenever NCQ is in use.

So they will perform poorly only any medium/large sequential access
if NCQ is employed.  Which is why the custom MS drivers avoid NCQ when
doing large sequential accesses.  Ours don't do this, yet.

-ml

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-03 16:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-03  7:11 Lower HD transfer rate with NCQ enabled? Paa Paa
2007-04-03  9:18 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-03 21:31   ` Paa Paa
2007-04-04  2:06     ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-06 21:33     ` Bill Davidsen
2007-04-03 16:31 ` Chris Snook
2007-04-03 16:47   ` Mark Lord [this message]
2007-04-03 19:17     ` Phillip Susi
2007-04-04 15:36       ` Mark Lord
2007-04-05 15:30         ` Phillip Susi
2007-04-05 16:11           ` Mark Lord
2007-04-05 16:45             ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-04-09 14:46             ` Phillip Susi
2007-04-10  3:58               ` Mark Lord
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-04-05 16:26 Paa Paa

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