From: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: getting processor numbers
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 10:45:35 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <461292BF.5020803@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070403173505.GD23689@one.firstfloor.org>
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Andi Kleen wrote:
>>> Topology is dependent on the number of CPUs.
>> Not all of it.
>
> What is not?
Memory banks can exist without a CPU present. The places where you can
plug in memory don't change and so the memory hierarchy can be described.
> Hmm, e.g. in OpenMP you would have another thread that just reads /proc/cpuinfo
> in a loop and starts new threads on new CPUs?
>
> That sounds ...... "expensive"
That's the cost of doing business.
There is an inexpensive solution: finally make the vdso concept a bit
more flexible. You could add a vdso call to get the processor count.
The vdso code itself can use a data page mapped in from the kernel.
This page (read-only at userlevel) would contain global information such
as processor count and topology.
But we're getting IMO off topic here. That's a separate and far more
complicated issue.
Here we now have the concrete issue that determining the CPU count is
terribly expensive and there is a simple proposal to make it faster by
keeping /sys/devices/system/cpu/ free from anything but cpu* directories.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-03 17:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-03 16:54 getting processor numbers Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 17:30 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-04-03 17:37 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 17:56 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2007-04-03 18:11 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-03 17:17 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 17:22 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-03 17:30 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-03 20:24 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-03 17:27 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-03 17:30 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 17:35 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-03 17:45 ` Ulrich Drepper [this message]
2007-04-03 17:58 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-03 18:05 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 18:11 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-03 18:21 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 17:44 ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-04-03 17:59 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 19:40 ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-04-03 20:13 ` Ingo Oeser
2007-04-03 23:38 ` J.A. Magallón
2007-04-03 19:55 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 20:13 ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-04-03 20:19 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 20:32 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-03 20:20 ` Nathan Lynch
2007-04-03 19:15 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-03 19:32 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-04 0:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-04 0:35 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-04 0:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-04 5:09 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-04 5:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-04 5:22 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-04 5:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-04 5:46 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-04 5:29 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-03 20:16 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <4612BB89.8040102@redhat.com>
[not found] ` <20070403141348.9bcdb13e.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2007-04-03 22:13 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 22:48 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-03 23:00 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 23:23 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-03 23:54 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-04 2:55 ` Paul Jackson
2007-04-04 8:39 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-04 9:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-04 8:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-04 10:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-04 2:58 ` Paul Jackson
2007-04-04 3:04 ` Paul Jackson
2007-04-04 2:52 ` Paul Jackson
2007-04-04 2:04 ` Paul Jackson
2007-04-04 6:47 ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-04-04 7:02 ` Paul Jackson
2007-04-04 14:51 ` Cliff Wickman
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