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From: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: getting processor numbers
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 15:13:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4612D175.30604@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070403141348.9bcdb13e.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

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Andrew Morton wrote:
> Did we mean to go off-list?

Oops, no, pressed the wrong button.

>> Andrew Morton wrote:
>>> So I'd have thought that in general an application should be querying its
>>> present affinity mask - something like sched_getaffinity()?  That fixes the
>>> CPU hotplug issues too, of course.
>> Does it really?
>>
>> My recollection is that the affinity masks of running processes is not
>> updated on hotplugging.  Is this addressed?
> 
> ah, yes, you're correct.
> 
> Inside a cpuset:
> 
>   sched_setaffinity() is constrained to those CPUs which are in the
>   cpuset.
> 
>   If a cpu if on/offlined we update each cpuset's cpu mask appropriately
>   but we do not update all the tasks presently running in the cpuset.
> 
> Outside a cpuset:
> 
>   sched_setaffinity() is constrained to all possible cpus
> 
>   We don't update each task's cpus_allowed when a CPU is removed.
> 
> 
> I think we trivially _could_ update each tasks's cpus_allowed mask when a
> CPU is removed, actually.

I think it has to be done.  But that's not so trivial.  What happens if
all the CPUs a process was supposed to be runnable on vanish.
Shouldn't, if no affinity mask is defined, new processors be added?  I
agree that if the process has a defined affinity mask no new processors
should be added _automatically_.


>> If yes, sched_getaffinity is a solution until the NUMA topology
>> framework can provide something better.  Even without a popcnt
>> instruction in the CPU (64-bit albeit) it's twice as fast as the the
>> stat() method proposed.
> 
> I'm surprised - I'd have expected sched_getaffinity() to be vastly quicker
> that doing fileystem operations.

You mean because it's only a factor of two?  Well, it's not once you
count the whole overhead.

-- 
➧ Ulrich Drepper ➧ Red Hat, Inc. ➧ 444 Castro St ➧ Mountain View, CA ❖


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-03 22:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-03 16:54 getting processor numbers Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 17:30 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-04-03 17:37   ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 17:56 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2007-04-03 18:11 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-03 17:17   ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 17:22     ` Alan Cox
2007-04-03 17:30       ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-03 20:24         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-03 17:27     ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-03 17:30       ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 17:35         ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-03 17:45           ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 17:58             ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-03 18:05               ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 18:11                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-04-03 18:21                   ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 17:44         ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-04-03 17:59           ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 19:40             ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-04-03 20:13             ` Ingo Oeser
2007-04-03 23:38               ` J.A. Magallón
2007-04-03 19:55           ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 20:13             ` Siddha, Suresh B
2007-04-03 20:19               ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 20:32                 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-03 20:20             ` Nathan Lynch
2007-04-03 19:15 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-04-03 19:32   ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-04  0:31     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-04  0:35       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-04  0:38         ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-04  5:09           ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-04  5:16             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-04  5:22               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-04-04  5:40                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-04  5:46                   ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-04  5:29               ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-03 20:16 ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]   ` <4612BB89.8040102@redhat.com>
     [not found]     ` <20070403141348.9bcdb13e.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2007-04-03 22:13       ` Ulrich Drepper [this message]
2007-04-03 22:48         ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-03 23:00           ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-03 23:23             ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-03 23:54               ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-04  2:55               ` Paul Jackson
2007-04-04  8:39               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-04  9:39                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-04  8:57                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-04-04 10:01                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-04  2:58             ` Paul Jackson
2007-04-04  3:04             ` Paul Jackson
2007-04-04  2:52           ` Paul Jackson
2007-04-04  2:04   ` Paul Jackson
2007-04-04  6:47     ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-04-04  7:02       ` Paul Jackson
2007-04-04 14:51       ` Cliff Wickman

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