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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	dwmw2@infradead.org, paulus@samba.org, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	flar@allandria.com, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Stop pmac_zilog from abusing 8250's device numbers.
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 09:16:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4613CF6A.2090407@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070404122154.GF31973@thunk.org>

Theodore Tso wrote:
> 
> The other thing I would probably do if I were to do it all over again
> is allow serial devices to be named independent of /dev/ttySx
> interface, these days probably using /sysfs, so that you could easily
> query to figure out what serial controllers/cards were on the system,
> and assign specific controllers/ports to specific /dev/ttySx devices.
> We could also provide a registration system to allow on-line
> configuration of non-probeable serial cards attached to primitive
> buses that don't alllow probing, such as the ISA bus, although perhaps
> that's much less important in this day and age.
> 

One option would be to move the 8250-based serial ports, to, say, 
/dev/ttyN* (for National Semiconductors -- the best I could come up 
with) and redefine /dev/ttyS* as a serial port multiplexer which maps in 
all the types, for the ones that really want dynamic mapping.

Then the ones who want static mapping can still have them.  This would 
presumably work with early remapping in open(), similar to the way ptmx 
is done.

Of course, now you have the potential of aliasing, again, which tends to 
cause all kinds of headaches w.r.t. locking.  From that perspective, it 
would be better if udev made symlinks, and we made the kernel use some 
sort of discovery syntax for console= (say, "console=serial0" to hunt 
down the "first" serial port for some definition thereof.)

	-hpa

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-04 16:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2007-04-03 23:14 ` [PATCH] Stop pmac_zilog from abusing 8250's device numbers Paul Mackerras
2007-04-03 23:28   ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-03 21:29     ` Brad Boyer
2007-04-03 23:57       ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]         ` <200704032210 02.GA13210@cynthia.pants.nu>
2007-04-03 22:10         ` Brad Boyer
2007-04-04  0:54           ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-03 23:09             ` Brad Boyer
2007-04-04  1:38               ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04  2:05               ` Chris Adams
2007-04-04  2:10               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-04  1:57                 ` David Lang
2007-04-04  8:51               ` Russell King
2007-04-04  9:48                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-04-04 16:09                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-04 16:22               ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-04 16:34                 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-04 17:38                   ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-04  1:16             ` David Miller
2007-04-04  1:28               ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04  1:07                 ` David Lang
2007-04-04  1:44                   ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04  1:23                     ` David Lang
2007-04-04  1:32                       ` David Lang
2007-04-04 16:07                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-04 17:50                       ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-04  1:50                     ` David Miller
2007-04-04 11:14                       ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04 12:20                         ` Olivier Galibert
2007-04-04  1:48                   ` David Miller
2007-04-04  3:07                 ` Gerhard Mack
2007-04-11 16:30                   ` Benny Amorsen
2007-04-12 15:34                     ` Roland Dreier
2007-04-13  2:45                       ` Gerhard Mack
2007-04-13  2:24                         ` David Lang
2007-04-13  8:09                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-04-04  0:02         ` David Miller
2007-04-04  0:12           ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-03 22:14             ` Brad Boyer
2007-04-04  1:13             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-04  1:17               ` David Miller
2007-04-04  1:32                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-04  0:01       ` [PATCH v2] " David Woodhouse
2007-04-04  1:25       ` [PATCH] " Alan Cox
2007-04-04  4:20         ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-04  5:19           ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-04  5:50             ` David Miller
2007-04-04  7:04               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-04-04 13:43                 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-04-04  7:52               ` Russell King
2007-04-04  8:41                 ` David Miller
2007-04-04  5:53             ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-04  6:03               ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-04  6:31                 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-04 14:19                   ` [PATCH v3] Stop pmac_zilog from abusing 8250's device numbers; optionally David Woodhouse
2007-04-04 23:48                     ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-05 12:45                       ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-05 22:53                         ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-05 22:59                           ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-05 14:31                     ` Atsushi Nemoto
2007-04-05 14:47                       ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-05 15:09                         ` Atsushi Nemoto
2007-04-05 15:18                           ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-05 15:49                             ` Atsushi Nemoto
2007-04-05 15:56                         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-04-04  8:12                 ` [PATCH] Stop pmac_zilog from abusing 8250's device numbers David Miller
2007-04-04  8:38                   ` Russell King
2007-04-04  8:43                     ` David Miller
2007-04-04  9:00                       ` Russell King
2007-04-04 19:58                         ` David Miller
2007-04-04 12:21                     ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-04 16:10                       ` Russell King
2007-04-04 16:16                       ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2007-04-04 16:25                         ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04 17:41                         ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-04 18:15                           ` Russell King
2007-04-04 19:50                             ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-05  6:05                               ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-05  8:50                                 ` Russell King
2007-04-05 16:15                             ` Olivier Galibert
2007-04-05 21:41                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-03 23:56     ` David Miller
2007-04-04  1:13       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-04  6:58     ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-04 14:16       ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-03 23:55   ` David Miller
2007-04-04  1:19     ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04  1:21       ` David Miller
2007-04-04  1:36         ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04  1:47           ` David Miller
2007-04-04  7:47         ` Russell King
2007-04-04  9:55           ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-04 16:06             ` Russell King
2007-04-04  6:58     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-08-14 11:49   ` Olaf Hering
2007-08-14 11:53     ` David Woodhouse
2007-08-14 16:24       ` Olaf Hering
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