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From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>
Cc: Ken Chen <kenchen@google.com>, Tomas M <tomas@slax.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] remove artificial software max_loop limit
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:33:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4616AE9C.9060400@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0704012106010.16977@yvahk01.tjqt.qr>

Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> On Apr 1 2007 11:10, Ken Chen wrote:
>> On 4/1/07, Tomas M <tomas@slax.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe that IF you _really_ need to preserve the max_loop module 
>>> parameter, then the parameter should _not_ be ignored, rather it 
>>> should have the same function like before - to limit the loop driver 
>>> so if you use max_loop=10 for example, it should not allow loop.c to 
>>> create more than 10 loops.
>> Blame on the dual meaning of max_loop that it uses currently: to 
>> initialize a set of loop devices and as a side effect, it also sets 
>> the upper limit.  People are complaining about the former constrain, 
>> isn't it?  Does anyone uses the 2nd meaning of upper limit?
> 
> Who cares if the user specifies max_loop=8 but still is able to open up 
> /dev/loop8, loop9, etc.? max_loop=X basically meant (at least to me) 
> "have at least X" loops ready.
> 
You have just come up with a really good reason not to do unlimited 
loops. With the current limit people can count on a script mounting 
files, or similar, to neither loop for a VERY long time or to eat their 
memory. Whatever you think of programs without limit checking, this 
falls in the range of expecting an unsigned char to have a certain upper 
bound, and argues that the default limit should be the current limit and 
that setting a lower bound should work as a real and enforced limit.

If a new capability is being added, and I think it's a great one, then 
people using the capability should be the ones explicitly doing 
something different. Plauger's law of least astonishment.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-06 20:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-30  7:53 [patch] remove artificial software max_loop limit Ken Chen
2007-03-30  8:48 ` Ken Chen
2007-03-30  9:07   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-03-30  9:25     ` Ken Chen
2007-03-30 16:16       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-03-30 21:15       ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-30 22:06         ` Ken Chen
2007-03-30 22:50           ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-31 17:07         ` Greg KH
2007-03-31 17:41           ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-01  4:16             ` Ken Chen
2007-04-04 10:31               ` Tomas M
2007-04-04 18:47                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-01 16:53         ` Tomas M
2007-04-01 16:57           ` Tomas M
2007-04-01 18:10             ` Ken Chen
2007-04-01 19:06               ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-06 20:33                 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2007-04-07 16:18                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-07 16:34                     ` Bill Davidsen
2007-03-30 21:46       ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-30 21:52         ` Jan Engelhardt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-04-01  9:16 devzero
2007-04-01 10:53 devzero
2007-04-01 18:03 ` Ken Chen
2007-04-01 19:00 ` Jeff Dike
2007-04-01 18:36 devzero
2007-04-01 18:43 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-04-01 18:54 devzero

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