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From: Rene Herman <rene.herman@gmail.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Ten percent test
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 21:09:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <461A8F83.90107@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070409174803.GA10189@elte.hu>

On 04/09/2007 07:48 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:

> i didnt say that, in fact my first lkml comment about RSDL on lkml
> was the exact opposite, but you SD advocates are _still_ bickering
> about (and not accepting) fundamental things like Mike's make -j5
> workload and flagging it as unrealistic, so until there's so much
> reality disconnect there's not much chance for this issue to progress
> i'm afraid.

I suppose I'm lumped in with the "SD advocates" now but you will note 
that I haven't been bickering about make -j5 loads. You cut away the 
entire meat of my reply which was all that predictability harping.

What I did say about make -j5 loads is that I do not think that they, 
under all circumstances, on all machines and at all cost, need to 
perform the same as currently if other situations improve. Do I want 
heuristics? Sure, I'm just saying the kernel is fundamentally incapable 
of getting it right all of the time and as such it should provide me 
with as many opportunities as possible at stepping in. That is, let me 
understand what it is and is going to be doing and then listen to me.

I agree not a lot of progress is to be made if people keep ignoring each 
other like that but also while SD's author is offline. Let's just shelve 
it until he's back. Not bury though...

Rene.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-09 19:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-28 16:37 [PATCH] sched: staircase deadline misc fixes Con Kolivas
2007-03-28 17:34 ` [ck] " Prakash Punnoor
2007-04-01  6:40   ` Prakash Punnoor
     [not found]     ` <b14e81f00704010724i3155a16en91074ab789416f3d@mail.gmail.com>
2007-04-01 20:03       ` Prakash Punnoor
2007-03-28 18:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-28 23:44   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-29  5:50     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29  6:29       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29  6:54         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29  8:18       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29 12:55         ` [ck] " michael chang
2007-04-03  2:35         ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-03  2:37       ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-03  5:31         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-03  6:00           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-03  6:01           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-03  6:11             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 11:02             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 11:09               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 11:12                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 11:15                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 13:18                   ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-04-05 15:28                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 11:54               ` [test] sched: SD-latest versus Mike's latest Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 12:10                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 12:12                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 12:24                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 16:08                 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-05 19:05                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 20:29                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-06  1:03                 ` Ten percent test Con Kolivas
2007-04-06  9:07                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-06  9:28                     ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-06 10:03                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 10:40                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-07  6:50                         ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-07 16:12                           ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-07 18:08                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-07 18:23                               ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-07 18:52                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-07 20:30                                   ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-08 10:41                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-08 10:58                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-08 17:04                                         ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09  4:03                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09  4:08                                             ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09  5:59                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 13:01                                                 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-08 11:33                                       ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-08 11:40                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 12:02                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 17:57                                             ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09  4:19                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09  5:23                                                 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09  6:09                                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 17:56                                           ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09  4:17                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09  5:16                                               ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09  6:06                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09  8:24                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 18:51                                       ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09  4:23                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 12:14                                           ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 13:27                                             ` Andreas Mohr
2007-04-09 19:54                                               ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 14:15                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 17:05                                               ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 17:48                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 19:09                                                   ` Rene Herman [this message]
2007-04-09 19:56                                                   ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 17:10                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 13:53                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 15:37                                           ` Rene Herman
2007-04-07 19:14                               ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-07 20:31                                 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 17:51                                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-09 18:03                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 18:44                                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-07 16:32                           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 13:08                           ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-04-09  5:38                             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 11:26                               ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-04-09 16:50                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-22 10:48                                   ` [ck] " Martin Steigerwald
2007-04-22 11:15                                     ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-10  2:39                               ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-10 11:23                                 ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-04-10 12:04                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-06 10:48                       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-03 10:57           ` [PATCH] sched: staircase deadline misc fixes Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29  6:36 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-23  8:58 ` Andrew Morton

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