From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965280AbXDITTT (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Apr 2007 15:19:19 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S965164AbXDITTT (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Apr 2007 15:19:19 -0400 Received: from mail.tmr.com ([64.65.253.246]:33527 "EHLO gaimboi.tmr.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S965153AbXDITTS (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Apr 2007 15:19:18 -0400 Message-ID: <461A900C.40400@tmr.com> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 15:12:12 -0400 From: Bill Davidsen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.8) Gecko/20061105 SeaMonkey/1.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: johnrobertbanks@fastmail.fm CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dhlii@comcast.net, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: REISER4 FOR INCLUSION IN THE LINUX KERNEL. References: <1176092219.12458.1183612420@webmail.messagingengine.com> In-Reply-To: <1176092219.12458.1183612420@webmail.messagingengine.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org johnrobertbanks@fastmail.fm wrote: >> I actually beleive that Hans made a reasonable case that >> Reiser4 had gone about as far as it could reasonably go with regard >> to testing, robustness, ... without the broader base of use that >> even an experimental filesystem in distribution tree would get. > > Of course, this is an entirely reasonable request of Reiser's. > One meet with an array of unreasonable actions, but mainly STALLING > which has led to REISER4 never becoming part of the main kernel. > > It has also lead to many false claims about REISER4. Claims that are > never backed up with solid statistics, but used to keep REISER4 out of > the kernel and tar its reputation. > Keep that last sentence in mind for four lines... >> I for one would at least play with it if it were in the distribution >> tree. > > I AM SURE THERE ARE A HUGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD GIVE IT A TRY. > "Claims that are never backed up with solid statistics, ..." >> As far as I could tell Hans pretty much everything else that >> was demanded. Hans eventually caved and provided - albeit with much >> pissing and moaning, and holy than thou rhetoric. > > It was not his pissing and moaning, etc,... these were just excuses to > keep REISER4 from succeeding. The truth is, that any excuse would do. > > The real reasons are financial and backed by big money (sometimes, big > egos). > Yes all of the people who make millions on the other filesystems! Wait... identify who makes a penny more or less with or without Reiser4. [ snip ] Until Namesys is stable there's no support team. It's not my impression that there's much support otherwise. -- Bill Davidsen "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot