From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965491AbXDIULg (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Apr 2007 16:11:36 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S965522AbXDIULg (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Apr 2007 16:11:36 -0400 Received: from srv5.dvmed.net ([207.36.208.214]:57565 "EHLO mail.dvmed.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S965491AbXDIULf (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Apr 2007 16:11:35 -0400 Message-ID: <461A9DF5.1050901@garzik.org> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 16:11:33 -0400 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Stoffel CC: Gene Heskett , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: I give up References: <200704091007.58535.gene.heskett@gmail.com> <200704091137.01336.gene.heskett@gmail.com> <17946.29660.368403.553290@smtp.charter.net> <200704091549.51805.gene.heskett@gmail.com> <17946.40257.794493.294518@smtp.charter.net> In-Reply-To: <17946.40257.794493.294518@smtp.charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin version 3.1.8 on srv5.dvmed.net summary: Content analysis details: (-4.3 points, 5.0 required) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org John Stoffel wrote: > The only sure strategy is to do your dumps in single user mode, with > only one process touching the filesystem during the backup window. > This obviously won't fly in a 24x7 environment, so people take their > calculated chances and run backups with the system live. That's what snapshots are for. No need for single user mode or taking chances. A snapshot gives you a consistent filesystem that you can dump or tar. Jeff