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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Olaf Hering <olaf@aepfle.de>,
	Dave Dillow <dave@thedillows.org>, Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: I give up
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 04:19:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <461B48A0.5010009@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200704100351.33699.gene.heskett@gmail.com>

Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday 10 April 2007, Olaf Hering wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 09, Dave Dillow wrote:
>>> It's not /dev he's backing up -- its /home, /usr, and others. GNU tar
>>> saves the device and inode numbers from the {,l}stat() call on each
>>> file and decides it is a new file if either number changes from run to
>>> run.
>> So fix tar to not do silly things.
>> Kernel major:minor numbers are not stable.
> 
> YOU Tell that to the tar/star people, they are flabbergasted that its not 
> stable.  It apparently is for every other OS tar can be run on.

It's just the new world that we live in.

I don't see us ever going back to 100% static major/minors.

Though as a point of history, Linux has /always/ supported dynamic 
major/minor numbers, even back in 0.99 days.  We avoided the problem 
then because the dynamic major/minors were only used by drivers that had 
not yet had static numbers assigned, or their author chose to avoid 
LANANA for some other reason.

	Jeff




  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-10  8:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-09 14:07 I give up Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 14:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-09 15:37   ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 16:49     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-09 17:03       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-09 18:36         ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 19:38         ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 21:35           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-09 22:22             ` Dave Dillow
2007-04-10  1:27               ` Dave Jones
2007-04-10  1:40                 ` Dave Dillow
2007-04-10  2:01                   ` Dave Jones
2007-04-10  7:12                   ` Olaf Hering
2007-04-10  7:51                     ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10  8:19                       ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2007-04-10 16:08                       ` Olaf Hering
2007-04-10 17:29                         ` David Lang
2007-04-10 16:14                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-11  3:54                         ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 15:39                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-11 15:51                             ` John Stoffel
2007-04-11 19:29                               ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 20:27                                 ` John Stoffel
2007-04-11 21:16                                   ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 21:26                                     ` John Stoffel
2007-04-11 19:27                             ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10  7:53                     ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10 12:24                       ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-04-10 20:45                         ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10 19:05                       ` Phillip Susi
2007-04-11  4:01                         ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 14:46                           ` Phillip Susi
2007-04-11 15:07                             ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-11 15:12                             ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-04-11 16:43                               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-04-11 17:03                                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-10  3:47                 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10  3:41             ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 17:11     ` John Stoffel
2007-04-09 19:49       ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 20:08         ` John Stoffel
2007-04-09 20:11           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-09 20:08         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-09 20:32           ` Ralf Baechle
2007-04-09 20:44             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-09 20:51               ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-09 20:33           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-09 20:47             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10  3:34           ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-10  3:38             ` John Stoffel
2007-04-10  6:50             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-04-10  6:59             ` CaT
2007-04-10 17:52             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-11  3:57               ` Gene Heskett

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