From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030876AbXDJPnd (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Apr 2007 11:43:33 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030879AbXDJPnd (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Apr 2007 11:43:33 -0400 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([192.83.249.54]:41470 "EHLO terminus.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030878AbXDJPnb (ORCPT ); Tue, 10 Apr 2007 11:43:31 -0400 Message-ID: <461BB092.3070201@zytor.com> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 08:43:14 -0700 From: "H. Peter Anvin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Egmont Koblinger CC: Jan Engelhardt , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] console UTF-8 fixes References: <20070406191245.GA11974@uhulinux.hu> <4616A2C7.3030000@zytor.com> <20070407092451.GA8779@uhulinux.hu> <20070407172603.GA25351@uhulinux.hu> <4617DBF7.5060009@zytor.com> <20070410094325.GB9143@uhulinux.hu> In-Reply-To: <20070410094325.GB9143@uhulinux.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Egmont Koblinger wrote: > > I know that correctly handling all Unicode scripts, including CJK, Hebrew, > Arabic, Indic are a much more complicated story and it's way beyond the > scope of kernel. I don't even know whether there's any graphical user-space > application handling all these issues perfectly. So I really don't want to > address them. > > I'd like only one small modification: the cursor to jump two columns for CJK > characters instead of just one. (Either two FFFD's, or rather an FFFD > followed by a space printed.) This would allow you to edit English words > within a mixed CJK-English text file. As my experiences show, such a minor > change in the terminal driver would solve cursor aligning issues in *many* > cases. With this change the console would still be very-very far from being > perfect, it just would be simply better in practice. > I don't see the point in dealing with one particular corner case, especially a corner case for which font support is inherently impossible. > Are you still definitely against this change? I see no drawbacks this could > cause, while it would make the console better in some circumstances. I think > this is just a small step towards a better console driver. It's bloat. -hpa